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Not surprising, Republicans resent anything that would benefit the cities or urban area's.

Probably the reason being is that with a state like Ohio with stagnant population growth, it very difficult to justify spending billions on rail projects.

Explain to us what the negatives of NATO has been. They have stood with and supported Ukraine against Soviet aggression, pretty much promoted and maintained peace in Europe, and fought against terrorism, just to name a few things.

I guarantee you there is more than just the mayor on board. Big labor, big financiers, certain state legislators whom I have heard on radio privately. The Chicago Bears CEO is well aware how the game is played, saying not now does not mean, not never.

How many gates are there to be built for this project, as opposed to the number of gates presently at Port Columbus.

Reliever airports are more associated with larger hub dominated airports or airports with large O&D passenger numbers like ORD, LAX, etc. Not non-hub airports with less than 10 million passengers.

Seems like a lot of development is coming into Greater Akron lately.

Wow, Cincinnati is by far the most beautiful and picturesque city in Ohio, and one of the tops in the Midwest.

Akron's best scenario would be to enter into an agreement with U.A where the university land is swapped with the city of Akron. The University could expand their footprint downtown by refurbishing the Stubbs center, and Akron builds a new police headquarters at the Wonder Bread site.

Once again no one is talking exclusively about A/C/Y being a part of some intercity route from Cleveland to Columbus. The whole 3C+D route is fraught with its own challenges, namely I-71. But most preferrable routing for rail in the Akron/Canton/Youngstown area that I hear is the New York-Pittsburgh-Chicago corridor. And whatever the cost, the Akron/Canton contingent is saying it should be a part of the conversation. And what is not explained is if the 3C+D route is so desirable, then why has it not been in operation before?

Akron and Canton are deeply engaged as one. Seeing themselves basically as one Metro area, the Akron-Canton Metroplex. The problem I see is how the whole rail transit marketing plan for Ohio is errant. The strategy should state: We are devoted to providing excellent rail service to every major Metro area in Ohio, understanding that some Metros will require more time and funding due to inadequate rail lines, but that is our goal, and we will achieve it. That is a lot more preferable than basically saying we are concerned about the 3C+D, and other Metro's are unimportant. That just won't fly, call it parochial or whatever. Remembering the Akron/Canton contingent also included politicians from Toledo, Akron/Canton, and other areas of the state. So, the 3C+D may still happen, but not without opposition.

Yes, that all sounds good, but it is a lot easier to have a comprehensive plan where everyone is on -board, than a piecemeal plan where a substantial amount of people feels omitted and unenthused. That is why we are in the place we are now. We are talking about Ohio, where everything is political, and like it or not we have seven or eight City-states that are dug in. We are competing for funds against states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Indiana, and Illinois that have a totally different dynamic. For rail service Ohio must speak with one voice, or we will be forever making plans and not progress.

I think the word sabotage is not appropriate here. Political officials have an obligation to fight for fund to support projects they deem important for their constituents. I applaud the aggressive approach by Akron/Canton officials to make sure their voices are heard to secure funds for projects they believe are important to their districts. They were aggressive in obtaining funds for air service though Jobs Ohio, and now they are on the verge of being chosen for a new Breeze operations base, and now they are fighting for funds for rail service, that's not sabotage, that's knowing how to compete against the 3c's in Ohio.

As I stated previously, you can't omit the Akron/Canton area and Youngstown by extension and say that you have comprehensive rail service in Ohio. Akron MSA has 700,000, Canton MSA has 400,000, and Youngstown/Warren MSA has over 500,000. You are talking over 1.6 million people, that is not some Appalachian numbers but Urban. Even if the routes don't run N/S they should run E/W, N.Y./Pittsburgh/Chicago.

Correct, its' not the suburbs responsibility to prop up Cleveland. The population of Cleveland has gone from a high of 914,000 population to now barely above 360,000 people. Is that the fault of the suburbs also. Northeast Ohio is a very complicated place, with Cleveland, Akron, Canton, and Youngstown all being the center of their own Metro areas. And with Akron/Canton being the exception they are very culturally different.

You are absolutely right, no need to have that conversation again. Greater Akron is its own MSA and more aligned with Canton. And as a CSA it is Cleveland-Akron Canton.

By city, First Energy and Goodyear is in Akron not Cleveland.

Good that Akron is building beyond the opposition of Nimby's and tree-huggers. That location has been nothing but an eyesore looking off of i-77 for years. Now hopefully someone will develop the land west off i-77 where Graf growers have occupied.

I agree, I meant to type Akron/Canton as one stop. Also, Youngstown, you are right would be an additional good stop on that rail route.

I would think an Pittsburgh-Akron-Canton-Fort Wayne-Chicago route would be ideal. Maybe with a Washington/ or N.Y extension.

Once again you are validating the power of I-71, No one said the VAST majority of traffic to points south, but there is a large amount of I-71 traffic to southern and southwest states. Competing with i-71 traffic to these three cities, with a diversion to Dayton by RAIL it will be a challenge, if it becomes a reality, otherwise it would already exist. Your own numbers reveal the popularity of I-71. And say what you will, but there is a lot of travel between Ohio cities and Chicago, and it ranks with the top cities out of state.

But the question is, would there be more traffic by rail, between the three C's, my guess is there will be more rail traffic to Chicago from the three C's. Much of the three C's I-71 traffic is to points South or Southwest, not necessarily among the three C's. That's the question that Amtrak will be most interested in because Amtrak will be competing against I-71.

Even with Ohio States tough loss to Michigan, I believe the play=off committee will try very hard to get Ohio State into the CFP. One, Ohio State is the most popular audience draw, and two they know Ohio State is a competitive opponent and they do not want a scenario like Georgia and a TCF type team in the finals. It may not happen but I believe it's their desire.