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https://www.citybeat.com/news/blog/21084781/road-closure-bike-lane-changes-traffic-details-about-fc-cincinnati-stadium-discussed-at-hearing-on-zone-change-request FCC trying to kill the Central Parkway Bike Lane. Why not pile on more suburban crap? To date: Killed the Liberty Street Diet Shortchanging promises to the WE council Submitted plan puts big parking garage at a big-time corner Looks like a spaceship Changing the CP bike lanes into a despicable "multi-use path" Have I mentioned how this would have fit better in Newport?

This probably was true 10-20 years ago. Behavioral trends and the abatement helped bring demand into the city. Said demand brings more interested eyeballs and it cascades from there. I don't think an abatement this heavy is needed anymore, the ball is already rolling. Boomers may not be interested in the city limits, but Millenials and empty-nesting Gen Xers will happily explore the idea of living within city limits.

I agree that this Tax Abatement stuff has been a little too beneficial to developers, but at this point, aren't these abatements starting to fall off the books? The program started 20 years ago, so those properties built/rehabbed from 2000-2004 ago are paying normal taxes now. The city should see a swell of tax money in the mid-late 2020's as the heavy-hitting projects, following the recession, start to fall off.

My guess is the developers know it will pass the HCB without complaint, so they copy/paste the same plan on these empty lots. I would prefer we see more modern mixed into OTR. Or at the least, do what the Rennen & Beecher Flats did and mix in some big windows to give these buildings a modern touch.

3CDC really should have proposed a new location for the garden before pushing this project. I agree that this project should go through, a garden doesn't belong on a major thoroughfare, but the backlash is going to be immense...

Yeah, I can't imagine a good reason to vote yes and spend 500k to give in to COAST's talking points about SORTA and the upcoming levy. There are no benefits to spending that 500k, it's a scared reaction.

Good, so hopefully they are still going to operate Clyffside mainly as an event center (with a taproom on the first floor, maybe collaborating with other brewers as well). Rhinegeist and the Bell Event Center currently has a lock on the OTR wedding scene, I think there's plenty of room for another space like that.

Yeah the county has this one right, Lot 24 is a huge opportunity and lot 27 would never get developed besides maybe park space (and that's ONLY if the Bengals relocate to LA) due to the shape. Cranley needs to quit whining

~Just to speculate~ Wishful tinking: Once the office tower is built and fully leased, the music venue is complete, AND the last remaining big lot (24 I think) gets started on a mixed-use building, then we will see a push for the caps. That's probably 2025. Ideally, 2 of the 3 caps will be buildings, with a park on the cap in front of the freedom center. More likely: Oktoberfest continues to be a major hit, and Cranley applies for a TIGER BUILD (who am I kidding, CMAQ) grant to cap them and make all 3 park space to improve the festival atmosphere as a part of his initiative to make Oktoberfest a 10 day event... because priorities. That would be applied for next year or in 2021.

The master plan is to put a garage there once their lease runs out or if FCC buys it out. For the near-term, it will remain the ballet.

If they put a f'n parking garage at the corner of Central and Liberty, I'll be livid. What a waste of a big-time corner. At least wrap the garage with commercial on the first floor and put something useful on top of the garage. These people suck.

Speaking purely from the perspective of someone who wants the city to get back to work on the Bike Cincinnati Plan, this is sorely needed. If the Cranley baggage doesn't get in the way this time, it will pass.

I see it both ways: North of Liberty doesn't have a signature park like OTR and Pendleton. Findlay park is right next to the market, and the market is looking to expand parking options. Why not kill two birds with one stone and give it the Washington/Ziegler treatment? Thus allowing for Findlay parking lots to be redeveloped while all the parking moves to under Findlay park. I can't imagine a better one-two Suburban Family Sunday punch than some shopping at Findlay market, lunch, and letting the kids play at Findlay park before heading home. Also, IF the streetcar ever gets extended to UC, it will be going by the park constantly, adding even more eyes to the area. If we feel like giving in to crime and selling off the park, then it better be a damn good proposal in order to bring density to the Northern Liberties. At least 6 stories tall, no built-in garage, unless it is underground.

Maybe Findlay could be redeveloped given its context, but I am wary of any city giving away public spaces to private developers, it should be done in very rare cases.

While true for some, I think a lot of these murders are spur of the moment things where they aren't doing a cost/benefit analysis in their head. Something triggers them and they react. We also can't keep closing parks due to violence, the best way to keep criminal activity down is to have feet on the street, and with less destinations to walk to north of liberty, you invite more crime. The best solution for now would to be to give those 2 parks the Ziegler treatment.

I'd be okay with them if they were situated like the Salt Lake City Chick-Fil-A along Vandecar way or Madison

Cedar Fair definitely changed the trajectory of the park, and I appreciate that. It was not in a good place late in the Paramount years.

I was just at KI yesterday, and The Beast is absolutely one of the best coasters in the world for the reasons stated above. There will never be a roller coaster like it in existence. While I appreciate Cedar Fair building coasters at all after buying KI, they've all been milquetoast 'safe' choices. They wouldn't dare build a ride better than the premier ones in Cedar Point.

They're getting pretty big, I think they'd be able to afford it. I don't know the disparity in sponsorship pricing between the NFL and MLS stadiums, but it certainly makes a statement that you're here to play with the big dogs.

It's gotta be US Bank or First Financial. I definitely could see FF wanting to get in on this with how fast they are growing.

Consistently solid collection, but nothing earth-shattering like Cedar Point has.

I'll put my chips on Gold Star arena, outsiders will think it's a cool venue because of the name, but then they realize what us locals already knew, it stinks. In all seriousness, I'd prefer it get named Cincinnati Gardens for our fallen comrade.

It would be absolutely wonderful if we could cover up some of that spaghetti to the west, but it won't happen in a million years.

So, as far as I am aware, the city/county now own a pretty significant swath of land adjacent to the convention center. Thoughts on how they expand this thing?

There's no reason to feel like a NIMBY over reasonable problems like the design and demand/fit. The actual NIMBYs will get this chopped from 7 floors to 5 and it will pass. There's no reason for a hotel there. And there's no reason this shouldn't interact with a pedestrian-hostile intersection that could be so much better if the buildings came up to the street. Just throw the parking behind the hotel, why is this so hard? There is, however, plenty of reason to add density to a neighborhood that is the most sought-after in the city, especially with an eventual commuter trail and plenty of retail next door at Rookwood. The old proposal wasn't ruining the charm of the neighborhood, that area is a mess.