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i just don't get the logic behind letting residents park in the street. Was there a big out-cry from residents about garage spots being too expensive? As long as we are going to be a car-centric city, the streets of OTR should be metered parking for people looking to spend money there from outside the basin.

That's true it isn't factual migration data, but I think there is still value in the broader results, even if it is all info we've seen before. The Philly -> Cincinnati thing is highly interesting to me, why are people searching to go to Cincinnati from that region specifically?

City Lab had an interesting article linking ApartmentList.com's migration report. Cleveland and Columbus seem to be pulling from mostly the Rust Belt. Cincinnati too, but oddly enough seems to have a pipeline from Philly. I don't know what is driving the connection between our two cities, but I thought that was pretty cool. Also, Detroit is getting ravaged by other growing rustbelt cities, not a good look.

There's a lot of businesses and competition now in OTR, and there hasn't been enough of a downtown population increase to keep up with supply. The new CBD residential projects being built will help, but that's not enough either. I'm don't think the closings say anything more than there's a lot of competition, and the crime will go away as development moves to McMicken. I think the population needs to double downtown for OTR to sustainably support a built-out mixed-use environment. There's just been more commercial development than residential so far. It isn't dense enough. North of Liberty, Court area of CBD, and Pendleton need more housing.

I'm glad it is balancing out, CBD and Findlay Market area are starting to get hot and fill out. 3CDC will complete the Kroger OTR redevelopment and finish out their south of Liberty landbank and leave the rest south of Liberty to smaller fish. Lots of residential coming online in CBD, which will help drive sustainable growth throughout the basin.

Yeah, the guy is annoying and goes overboard often, but good on him for realizing that FCC dug themselves a hole choosing the WE before doing their homework. In a world where billionaires have leverage 99% of the time, its refreshing to see poor people take advantage of their leverage here. Good for them. They made a dumb business decision choosing the west end, and I'm glad they aren't easily steam-rolling their way out of it.

This isn't true at all, I attend some FCC games and watch about half of them on TV. I used to be all-in on what this team was doing before the stadium debacle. Then they picked the West End, then they continued to stumble through negotiations with the WECC and didn't consider Newport even though it had to be a million times more attractive from a money standpoint, then they oversold the fact that the city/county got a good deal, then they got s****y when residents and businesses that were getting displaced were asking for help and money. The Liberty St "diet" amendments and out-of-place design are the least important parts to me. Mgmt has been bad at just about every turn. You know what solves all of the above? Newport.... But god-forbid Lindner invest any money across the river, or that FC Cincinnati isn't located in Cincinnati proper.

It's just a matter of answering the question: Is development good just because it is development? Personally, I'd rather wait a while and have had the neighborhood remain mostly residential, with infill and some mixed use near the major arteries as individual developers move into the area. The Home-arama plot and filling in the missing City West lots would have been a nice start.

The packet shows the north side of Central Ave being turned into a collector for gameday traffic, not sure about the south side. Another look shows the north Central Ave entrance is a plaza/vehicle entrance like the NW corner of Nippert, the south portion of Central dead-ends to a pedestrian entrance I think.

If they decide to tear down the Ballet, they should do OTR-style infill on the existing Bauer street area and on the Ballet/TriState Wholesale lot build a small self-contained shopping area with a generic mixed-use builiding fronting Liberty/Central Pkwy, and shops/public space on the inner portions of that plot (like the outdoor section of Newport on the Levee). Also, what is the plan with Central Ave? On the planning packet, it shows it just dead-ending into the stadium, is it going under the stadium and connecting to the garage? If it does just end, why does it have stubs and not just dead end into 3-way intersections? It looks like FCC wants that road turned into a collector road for game day traffic... take that crap somewhere else.

The West End would have started gentrifying a decade or more from now, I agree. I also don't like Banks 2.0 tearing down good-looking buildings that are usable. There's a number of casualties coming not from the stadium footprint, but the parking lot/development ring around it, that presumably will have your generic modern stuff pasted on top of the garages. They're trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, and if that doesn't work, well, they'll make the neighborhood conform to them (which they promised they wouldn't mess with). EDIT: In looking at the packet again, most of the parking is over stuff that's a non-issue. Everything in the plan so far seems to be okay. The Bauer area (which has no plan yet) and the ridiculous request that the Central Pkwy and Liberty corner should be a county parking garage are my only issues so far. That's prime real estate, what a waste.

I was just making a joke on the parking garages and surface lots proposed to be immediately surrounding FC Stadium, not the broader area. Just like the French Quarter is near the stadiums, we have OTR right next door as well. They're tearing down nice and perfectly usable buildings to build surface parking lots... that's not acceptable.

I've peered into the future and specifically made sure to visit the West End, it looks a little like this:

75's traffic could be solved for 120M (1/10th) the price of this 4 lane rebuild if we put 50% of that into bus infrastructure improvements on critical north/south routes, and the other 50% towards free fares on certain commuter (or X routes). Indy Go's Red-line costs 95M

This needs to be brought back after it was killed decades ago, but it won't be in Ohio as long as pay-day lenders are a huge influence on the guaranteed Republican majority in the Ohio house and senate. If Cleveland did re-institute Postal Banking, the pay-day people would be on the horn the next day forcing state lawmakers to make a bill blocking municipalities from instituting this. If we get a president and congress that is Democratic after 2020, then 100% this will be a thing nationwide.

Yeah, Cranley was FC Cincinnati/Wasson Way levels of excited for what was coming to Fountain Place a few months ago, I'd hope it isn't just getting filled and that's it.

The bridge is barely ever driven on, what a turd. He's got to retire soon, right?

I love this area of downtown. It's quieter/less vehicle traffic than OTR-proper, but has similar buildings, all kinds of cool businesses, and a strong arts culture. It feels more European than OTR does right now. That may be because it is more filled out though (given its smaller size).

Sigh, this was all a part of the plan when the casino money got axed. Of course this thing was going to run a deficit and be all over the local news, where's my profit?!?

The 200ft gap seems to be a land-acquisition problem with Aztec Services Group Inc, because the trail before it is built to go behind their building, then stops, then starts again behind another building, but you have to use a service drive between the 2 businesses to get to it.

If this trail ever gets any attention, like say, the attention the WW gets, it will do well. For now it is just a half-assed (besides the Northside section) trail. It is the same issues that plagues anything that the public wants in this city that the mayor simultaneously doesn't want. It is phoned-in and the mayor points and says "I told you so!" It also doesn't help that the areas it serves are mostly poor and minority-majority... so of course it won't get attention.

Yikes, not a post about development along this important trail since 2012, I think the Mill Creek bridge and Millvale section was completed in 2015, but still, it hurts my soul. Well I finally took a ride this year along the trail, after going a number of times last year, and as promised in another thread, took some (phone) pictures. Here's my journey: I started from my house and down picturesque Burns Ave in Wyoming into Hartwell. Although it is forgotten by the city of Cincinnati, Hartwell has some really neat residential streets. Combine that with the excellent bones that Carthage's business district has, these neighborhoods are the most underrated/underappreciated by the city itself. So much potential. The northern terminus of the trail is tough to get to without a car. Caldwell Park, as expected was not well maintained, there's trash on the ground or overflowing trash cans every time I've biked here to get on the trail. The northern section was actually in better shape than I thought it would be. The good people at the Mill Creek Alliance must have recently being out cleaning up overgrowth. Being so detached from the main segment of the trail, I bet this rarely gets used. I've never seen anyone on this stretch of trail. That said, I firmly believe that this trail, once completed could be one of the best in the country. The northern section is this really cool blend of feeling like you are in the middle of nowhere, while being close to neighborhoods and industrial businesses. Having a train going through the woods next to the river was a unique feature. Here's where things get dicey. The northern section, which is only a mile or two long, dead-ends into Este Ave, which has a bike lane and is honestly barely ever driven on. It is too bad this isn't planned to have an off-road trail there's fields and nature all around the area. The ignored sidewalk will eventually be turned into one of those multi-use sidewalks, but honestly, I'll probably still just use the bike lanes. It's a mile or two down Este where the bike lane just ends. You are tasked with the challenge of holding your breath, turning onto the busy Spring Grove Ave/Mitchell Ave intersection, and scooting over 3 lanes to make a left to the start of the southern section of the MCG. The Spring Grove and Northside section of the trail is pretty standard fare. It goes by a park and has some cool art, and takes you conveniently across two neighborhoods. The CROWN logo being faded is a nice reminder that this trail is also forgotten. And. it. just. ends... Dumping you near the the Ludlow overpass wondering if this thing ends here or if the whole trail was funded by big scrapyard and big used car as a scheme to get you right on their doorsteps. After double-checking google maps (the first time I did this trail I made a wrong turn and biked a half mile down spring grove ave), I figured out where to go to catch back up with the Camp Washington section. Are they extending the bike trail here? Ha! of course not, it's a highway widening project! The other part of the trail was right there, so obvious! The Camp Washington section winds through trees and scrapyards and dumps you onto the Mill Creek Bridge. They gave bikes half of the real estate on this bridge! Honestly that is the biggest surprise I've ever seen from this administration. Did someone forge John Cranley's signature when the Mill Creek Alliance asked to give bikes a whole 10 ft lane and removing a vehicle lane? Where the train tracks end... I didn't take an pictures on my way back, my wife was already ticked off that I took way too long "going on a bike ride." There does seem to be a future extension that got fenced off this past year on the east side of Vine just south of the OH-126 crossing. Maybe it is selfish, but I wish that this trail would get some attention. It is an awesome route through some unique landscapes and would dump right into the Lick Run and Ohio River Trails right next to downtown. Hope you guys enjoy this, and hopefully this inspires some of you to take a ride on the trail sometime. It is something you can't find elsewhere in the city.

There's no reason to think Cincinnati can't produce a culture of developing niches instead of relying on outside companies (or home-grown staples applying for corporate welfare while threatening to leave). UC's Innovation Hub, their future Maker manufacturing hub, MORTAR, and the many other grassroots organizations can diversify our business portfolio. You are parroting the same threats that big business use. They hold cities against each other and see who can offer the best corporate welfare program. I want companies that believe in this city and the talent that is here. If they are just asking for breaks, there's no reason to think they won't ask for the moon again when the tax break expires. If a company thinks they can attract enough talent to move to Florence, then fine... go for it. they should choose us based on our city's features, not how much money we can hand out.

That's the problem. Under your assumptions all major developments are a race to the bottom, where the employers hold all the cards and can dictate what a city does, at the expense of the taxpayers. If that is the case (and it isn't right now, because companies are largely choosing to relocate to more expensive city centers to attract better talent), then I'd rather our city build up employment giants from the ground up. Build a good start-up culture (which is happening here right now) and let them grow up in this city. I'm so sick and tired of states being held hostage "because jobs." Mt Pleasant, WI is a case study in governments being held hostage because of alleged job promises.