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I think the office space situation all comes down to how the project is being handled at all levels. Millennial Tower has reportedly been struggling to fill commercial/office space however, the majority of the project is just spec design and has truly had some of the most ambiguous timelines I've ever seen. North Market Tower seems to be the opposite, much of the space is already planned for specific tenants, comes with built in revenue by nature of being a market extension, and the timelines are becoming much more definite which all make leasing office much easier. Perspective tenants don't tend to like the game of chance, which seems to actually be the game for Arshot, while Wood and Schiff are major players in the city that know people and actually build. I think if you take these pieces into consideration, the location and existing desirability of the location, and recent reports are showing that that Class A office space vacancy in downtown is hitting new lows and rents are rising to the the $25-$30 SF range, I imagine they will find some office tenant pretty easily. I could be wrong, yes, but personally I think we could see a slight floor count increase and expect a tenant announcement before construction is complete.

Whats a postcard? Haha

My guess is that major cost increases are what to the altered design, we've seen the same think happen with other major projects around the city and state. It seems the only projects getting off the ground right now are ones that were ready to go at announcement or one seeing massive scale backs like NuCLEus up in Cleveland which I believe is undergoing yet another. Skyrocketing construction costs are the death blow to these things right now. I feel like back in 2017 the original design was much more possible than it is now, but ultimately I think that competition came down to the actual use of space more than the design. I know the early press releases made it seem like the market authority and the city just vastly preferred the overall programming of space from Wood and Schiff over the others and may have stipulated that those uses needed to remain mostly unchanged with any future iterations.

Here is a mockup I made for a different thread, the scale is slightly off but I think it gives a pretty solid idea of what we are looking at in the next few years.

I know some people are going to be disappointed but we were warned by a few posters back through the thread we'd be looking at a hight in this range. I have to admit that while I was skeptical, it looks like it'll be a really great building now that we are seeing official renders. What's most exciting is that it's a thousand times better than a surface lot, it adds to the market vendor space, adds residential, adds office, and pushes development downtown... overall this is a solid win. I also enjoy the people on the CU article losing their mind about parking like there isn't a 900 space garage on Vine Street already.

Great catch! Interesting that it says it's 29 floors and not the 28 we have all seen multiple times, but that could just be the pedestal required to bring it up to street level. I just really want to know the height of this thing! Im so curious to see where in the 300s it's going to land.

Construction update: Looks like the sidewalk is open, signage is up on the ground and side of the building (weird placement if you ask me), and the 'canopy' is getting little a green roof. Below is the view from the Convention Center

Construction update: Appears 3 of the 4 cores have reached full height. Seems like this project will have a much larger impression on the surrounding area than I had originally thought. Here is a view from North Market parking lot this afternoon (which we can only hope won't be a parking lot much longer).

In addition to Renn not enjoying being questioned (I've been the on the receiving end of his rants in the past as well), he is obsessed with Indianapolis and uses it as his control for all his arguments and topics. It's rather strange, while he may be a heavy research and data driven urban writer, he often falls back on his emotions and preconceived ideas of cities that he has spent very little time in and understanding. I applaud you for pushing him, he tends to run under the notion that his title and stature make him unquestionable but everyone should be challenged from time to time.

Going up! It's actually really interesting/strange how they are building this thing. They seem to be working from the northwest corner towards the southeast corner, it's like a ripple. Enjoy

Oh what I would give to see that old City Center Garage demo'd. Not only is it trash architecture, it creates the largest dead zone in an area with some of the highest potential. Ugh, I digress.

... the new jail going up has more curb appeal than this thing. I'm done with Clintonville, place is a disaster.

Just going to drop this here for everyone... Caught my attention. http://www.jns.design/march-2019/

It's crazy how similar the two are once you really start dissecting it. Now my question is transit, I wonder if Wexner has the political and financial power to connect this "Urban Easton" to the city by more than car or bus. I imagine he does but i'm not sure he would based on how Easton has been built up until now.

So based on his words, it sounds strikingly like The Domain area in Austin for how this could evolve. The area started out much like Easton and has become kind of a midtown or "second downtown" according to many in Austin. Austin population is similar in size, The Domain is a similar distance from the core, and it's target demographics are extremely similar. As you can see below, its not the most "walkable" but I imagine we this could easily have been walkable had it been planned more like Wexner is discussing. The area has also become a hub for a lot of tech in the city as well. My guess is that we're looking as something more like this than specific examples he used.

Grabbed a shot walking home yesterday, not much different than Cityscapes image but figured I'd throw it on here for you all anyway. Enjoy.

This development is trash. Absolutely mind blowing Edwards and apparently the commission finds this acceptable.

Looks like they're drilling for some soil samples at the "Hamilton Parker" site in the AD today.

I thought the day would never come, this will be Columbus' first 300+ tower since Marinova was under construction back in 1999. The closest we've gotten was The James back in 2014 clocking in at 297', this will likely hit the 320'-350' range. It's a good day!

Yep, it was built in 1990 replacing the original church which dated back to 1922. Below is the best image I could find of the original.

Well I went a little crazy and decided to mock that up in the image for everyone. I know the scale is off a bit (I tried my best) but I think this gives a good general feel of what the area may turn into with just those additions. Enjoy! Added note: The Market Tower design I mocked up was the most recent "leak" at the lower height.

Digging around a bit discovered there may be some movement happening at the Hamilton Parker site that sits to the south of 670 in the Arena District. The site is currently used as a gravel surface lot and bound by Spruce, Neil, Vine, and Kilbourne, just across from 300 Spruce. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9738723,-83.0106862,255a,35y,137.24h,44.94t/data=!3m1!1e3 Now, it looks like engineering applications were filed yesterday under the name "Hamilton Parker Development" with the city for a water and sanitary rebuild. https://ca.columbus.gov/ca/ Finally, according to the County Auditors site, the land was transferred from Hamilton Parker in May to "NWD" which seems to be Nationwide, the "NWD" seems to be attached to every residential property in the Arena District (Flats, Flats II, Arena Crossing, etc...). So if you're still with me, it looks like Nationwide is ramping up things to develop this lot, now I wouldn't get excited for anything impressive, it'll likely just be another Flats development, but it's a huge leap forward form its current surface lot form.

Looking at the M/I webpage for the development it says "Homes are priced from the mid $500,000 to $700,000 range". I know Chicago can be a lot higher but I'm going to say yep, Chicago pricing in full swing.

What I would do for a decade of highrise construction like that again or a new tallest. Sigh.

Just went back and checked, you're right, it does include OTR and Pendleton. So yes, CIN numbers are the the basin numbers, COL numbers reference the area defined by the inner-belt freeways. Kind of confusing now looking back, my apologies.