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Interesting, I have no clue what to make of this. I will say that if Schiff couldn't pull it together, I am glad he sold it vs sitting on it for a decade. The lot is almost a gateway from the south, it deserves something good. I hope whatever it is it can bridge that visual and mental gap between Cap Square and the courthouse complex.

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I did not expect a masterpiece but blah, I feel like it looks even more dated now. They kind of just put in the minimum here, unfortunate. I am going to guess this is really all they are willing to do and will probs strong-arm bit to get approved. Yeah it is better than a surface lot, but just barely.

My biggest question is WHY ARE WE PUTTNG THE ELEVATOR CORES IN THE FACE OF BUILDINGS!? The Edwards project at Broad and Young did the same thing... I do not understand why this is suddenly happening. Anyway, happy this missing tooth is finally getting filled.

Agreed, the height is fine... The architecture isn't it. I also dont love that the office building is shown as a literal copy/paste of the one just built. I hope that is just a placeholder because while the tower needs a lot of work I really do not want to see Daimler phone it in and just duplicate their design to save $$$.

Gimme da Reykjavik Opera House. I like bold and clean but in Franklinton I also want it to be fun and expressive.

What a weird conversation. Either way, I see the public restrooms as a win for downtown. Many European and some US cities have these and they are overall quite succesful. There will always be isolated issues but that is no reason to hold up a public works project like this where it is in the best interest for the city to maintain and monitor these. Frankly, even the public toilets in SF are not the homeless magnet being described above, they're often quite clean and boring. Honestly this could be a win win, if Tonti is really upset about this they may finally sell and we get a new public restroom and a new development.

"New public infrastructure is going to hurt the value and perception of my crumbling parking lot in the center of a hot real estate market" is a... bold take.

I never knew and image could get me so excited and disappoint me so much.

I swore part of the deal was Greyhound gained access to use the CC terminal or Spring Street terminal with the deal... Maybe I am delusional. Either way, nothing says warm, safe, and welcoming like a shuttered gas station off of the freeway. smh

Hard disagree, it's a touch of history that is inoffensive and adds a nice pop to the square.

Otherworld seems to be cornering the market as the Midwest/East Coast Meow Wolf. I would love to see them expand in to a dedicated facility in Franklinton and continue to grow. What they have done with their initial funding is pretty impressive, I just hope they can grow it organically and uniquely.

Completely agree, I do wish Parks would have allowed at least one new gateway along this side of the park. I guess historically there was not one and there are no formal "paths", but it would have been nice addition.

I do think Ohio is facing an uphill battle here. While some are settling, I think big shifts are on the horizon if a recession takes root. The last major recession pushed the 3Cs quite far ahead of the tier 2 Ohio cities, but it also pushed the countries biggest cities to new levels. If that pattern holds the 3Cs will be fine but it will really begin taking its toll on the state. There is nothing showing that Millennials or Gen Z will go rural suddenly and they're still the most transient groups. The 3Cs can only do so much to plug the leak and while Columbus is doing great, I think Ohio is in trouble.

The birds are unsure of this.

So the James did receive a height boost mid construction, I wonder if that was the additional height it was rumored to support.

I hate how much I agree. The blue is at least interesting and a nice bold pop from the beige and gray.

It shouldn't come as a shock that the Nicholas and the 195 E Broad are both the same architect, Kephart. I will say Kephart did also do The Citizens Building renovation BUT the structure was there so we can't give them too much credit on that one. They have a lot of projects around Denver and frankly, they're all pretty bad as well, very much a throw materials at it for visual interest kind of firm. I am not sure who did Edwards other stuff like Neighborhood Launch but bring them back and give Kephart the boot. https://kephart.com/architectural-portfolio/the-nicholas/ https://kephart.com/architectural-portfolio/195-east-broad-street/

It's fine and glad the gabled roof got axed.

Looks like they're looking for a way to spruce things but also keep costs down, my guess is a placeholder for a future dev.

Yeah sad that some of the biggest QOL pieces of these plans never happened.... subway, light rail, and a Broad Street road diet/medians. What a different city this could have been by now if these has taken root when they should have.

Yeah, I have tried so hard to see some kind of design in this building and it just isn't there. I need the commissions to stop complaining about height and density and start caring about architecture... this should have had pushback. I refuse to accept they designed a building to match a parking garage and just nobody on that commission cared to question it. AND WHY IS THE ELEVATOR CORE ON BRAOD ST. Sorry, the longer I look the more maddening it becomes.

Honestly the new design proposed for the Drury is an improvement but yeah, overall the hotel is a waste for a prime spot literally on the CC block. Really I want both the Drury and Siesta to modernize or completely redevelop. Both properties feel out of place at this point and are wildly underutilized. However, I will be happy to see the peaked roof go.

... It's literally across the street from the Jackson (9 stories?), a block from the King and High project (8 stories), and two blocks from the White Castle Building (8 stories). How did these people get these commission spots? It's really time to restructure the commissions from reviewing density and height and just having them focus on architectural design and build quality.

Agreed, I would love to see rolling phases but the housing, office, commercial, and retail markets are very unpredictable right now so I appreciate the due diligence in getting this done right. I truly think this has so much more potential and feels so much better being built in these phases with multiple developers vs the master plan/super development originally proposed... helps us avoid another AD situation in terms of architectural diversity.