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I'd love to see a first class aquarium/Great Lakes museum where the stadium sits. If we could pull this off along with retail somewhere within the city, Cleveland could truly be the region's premier tourist destination.

I may very well end up being wrong, but I just don't see the lifestyle elements of this project ever happening. Or they'll be scaled back significantly.

So the mayor of Brookpark is essentially an HSG lobbyist. Wonder if he just doesn't care that he's a useful tool or if he doesn't realize it. Have some pride man.

Haslam's won't be covering any gaps. They'll just scale back the project.

Why would Cleveland do this if they don't believe the revenue projections or want the stadium there? The city doesn't need to save face here.

Our area reps should have tried to work this into the stadium funding amendment. Also, is there a world where the city finds a partner for the lakefront stadium to compete for events with the BP dome?

I think you're right in that letting it play out provides him with more ammunition to kill this, but I just don't think he needs more. I'll call it what it is, this funding plan is being driven entirely by bought and paid for Republicans. My hunch is that the people of Ohio are either against this, don't know about it, or don't care. I think there's very few Ohioans who think this is a good idea.

Man is DeWine frustrating. Just state clearly what you want and what you're going to do. You don't need to sell the people of Ohio on this being a bad deal and you should already have a good sense of whether the legislature has the votes to override a veto.

No details on the ask in the article though. Hoping it's not much of a negotiation.

Care to share details if you're in the know then? The reporting I've seen only states that Murphy still has yet to put the financing package together but that he thinks it should be a public/private partnership. Oh, and that the return on the investment will be huge. I'm not buying it and I hope Cleveland doesn't either. They can play these games at any number of high school fields across the county.

I'm also surprised at some of the support for this. We cannot seriously consider public funds for a stadium to host a division 2 team in a newly formed league. Obviously the ask for public funds hasn't been made yet, but it's implied that it's coming in some form. Use any number of the existing stadiums in the area for this.

Maybe he'd only turn to Plan B absent state funding and not to fill the gap if the country refuses to participate? Either way, I haven't seen any reporting about various port authorities issuing bonds. Feels like we would have heard something on that front given the county's stance on the matter.

Wouldn't Haslam's plan B comments suggest that this is not the case?

During a segment on 92.3 this morning, they noted that there was an amendment offered by a GOP rep that would prevent the state from providing loans for professional sports stadiums. The amendment failed but the vote was extremely close. This potentially suggests that funds approved for the stadium aren't widely popular among state GOP reps and that a veto may not be overturned. I still think a line item veto of the $600M is wishful thinking but if DeWine has the spine, the veto may hold.

This is my fear as well. In fact, I have absolutely zero confidence.