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As long as the office idea isn't dead or scaled down to something super minor, this doesn't strike me as a terrible thing. I'd rather them build to their original specifications than to do a super scaled down version just to do it. I wonder if the Voss building development would help move this project along and/or nudge the office component along...

It's not just at you, multiple people in the past few pages have made statements that are not based in any type of fact other than 'I heard from someone somewhere'. I don't understand the need to get offended when people dig into your sources and takes- especially with something as transformative as this project. If I make a huge statement as you did, I'd expect a full on fact finding mission aimed at me from members here, and wouldn't get all upset when people try and dig. My intention wasn't to aim this at you, but just a general statement, but if you took offense, sorry. Finally, as I stated above, I came to UO to avoid bs from other sites- no matter if the news is good or bad for the region (feel free to dig through my post history), sure I might not have a tenure such as yours, but it's no reason to gatekeep.

I'd imagine any RTA news following twitterfolk saw this, but great to see hands on leadership, hopefully this type of thing continues!

I regret reading through/catching up on the 3 previous pages, buncha stuff thats going to get chopped from the forum. I like posts that are based in fact, and there's a handful of people on here that actually prove their muster. Its a very fine line of what makes this UO and not cleveland.com, reddit, or something similar. I don't see a problem in trying to vet someone's post that's a 180° turn from what's been said the previous 15 pages. Lastly, its not burning a source of you actually go into the most minor of details- @KJPis a great example- the guy has arguably more sources than most local reporters combined and still has them despite leaving breadcrumbs out there.

Any rumblings of things going on in the space below the parking deck across from the UCC on Prospect? Restock closed probably two months ago, and just noticed Cash Stop has closed recently too. It's not the most appealing space but kind of weird two tenants are gonezo, especially the Cashstop, unfortunately that place seemed busy all the time.

New Jamaican carryout coming along nicely! Right next to family dollar at pearl/broadview for reference

I really hope the city puts an actual market manager in charge of managing the market. Despite this new development, I have serious doubts that the current market leadership (on the city side) will know how to capitalize on this. Here's to hoping though!

Not to be a downer, but I really don't think Cleveland can support a soccer team of that caliber, at least not now. We have three major franchises currently and when one team is hot, attendance falls off with the other teams. I went to my first MLS game this past year and it was awesome, but it takes years to cultivate such rabid fandom, and to me, we should have a lower level team and build from there.

Thoughts on the "several other states" bit? Is there a chance some state/county/muni offers some knockout incentives to move (they are a publicly traded company after all)? Does anyone think they'd risk such a move?

Ditto. Not sure how I feel about this, those PS parking lots need to gooooooooooooooooo (same with nuCLEus site, but those can go after the other's are filled in...but I digress..) Regardless of my opinion, thanks for the insight @John D. Baumgardner!

It's 6M according to Stark (someone correct me if I'm wrong here). When you're trying to get your way you tend to bend the truth/numbers/maps in your intended outcome's direction.

Thanks for the clarification- fwiw I figured it was temporary until another phase was built and this confirms it, granted, they could probably do something just as inexpensive and more aesthetically pleasing in the meantime (especially judging by how long this site has sat idle since the last announcement).

What beautiful chain link fencing lol

That drone footage is fantastic.

Great photos @Paul in Cleveland!

Borrowing a phrase from reddit, "tell me how I'm supposed to feel about this". It seems 30 years is a LOT of time. A couple questions is OC considered an opportunity zone (sorry, on my phone), and do you think Ohio/Cle/the developer would consider a PILOT (payment in lieu of taxes) program?

I'm an outsider with this stuff, but I feel like to attract BA to CLE there'd have to be huge incentives and subsidization. I'm only speaking from experience from when I lived in Pittsburgh but a lot of their European routes were pretty heavily subsidized.

This is going to be a long couple years lol, although it seems like things are moving in a very positive direction (albeit I'm sure a lot can change in a project like this between now and groundbreaking *fingers crossed no repeat of anything close to 2008*). In the meantime, I'm going to continue to curse at the surface parking lol

Theres nothing wrong with encouraging mass transit and other alternative transportation options. Frankly, if you're commuting in from Chardon, Avon, or Bainbridge, residents of Cuyahoga ARE paying the bills around the city. This will probably be deleted along with most of this thread, but I'm going go disagree with you on this one https://www.planetizen.com/blogs/105877-war-cars-bad-joke Edit: not to mention most bicyclists are car owners and gas taxes only pay for a fraction of infrastructure projects. Edit2: What major us cities dont have traffic? Our rush hour is a joke and same with traffic on our major corridors. There's absolutely no reason why 271 needs to be widened, or 480 expanded. We need a better transit system that can supplant cars, not more lanes that do nothing for traffic or make things faster.

The lawn isnt always active, however at lunch time and after theres people hanging out, dogs running, etc. Its far from a dead spot, I'd venture to bet the fountains were a dead zone outside of lunch time during the week. Not to mention the countless concerts and events that take place there. I'm a transplant, so for better or worse, all I have are pics and to me, a sidewalk jungle isn't what I personally want for that space. I've enjoyed tons of amazing events on the mall since I've moved here about four years ago, something that probably wasnt possible with fountains.

Okay those are cool, much better than the concrete sidewalk wasteland they were filled in with. What we have now seems to be an improvement over what came after the fountains, at least people are out on the lawns and whatnot.

Not quite Dutch levels of cycling, but awesome to see kids riding their bikes to school en masse!

Yuck

Totally, didn't mean to glance over that point. It was nice when JHB actually had a sidewalk lane going on, same with Athalon (albiet it took a year). I don't understand why it isn't written into city code or something, for instance, I was amazed at the pedestrian lanes on N High St. last year - arguably one of Columbus' busiest streets, and while it created traffic, it kept peds safe.

This is great- we need more traffic jams to get people out of their Single Occupancy Vehicles and into public transit. Our legislature will probably just build more highway/widen roads though ?