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Haven't read the articles yet, but hoping rental cars are moved on site, or at least closer/more convenient than the current spot.

Started off my day grumpy, but couldn't believe that this article only had architectural renderings. Like, it opens in a day give us actual photos!

Some person on reddit was like blah blah blah they aren't taking funding away from anyone you're full of it/stop fear mongering, then I proceeded to explain a TIF to them and they've been silent since.

The full presentation/slidedeck is pretty great, wishful, but great! Helps really point out how wasted the land would be if IDA went the industrial route with it. https://americas.uli.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/3_17082_Lakeshore_SlideDeck_Final-compressed.pdf

Site looks great thanks for all you put into it.

They also tried to demo it a few years back if I'm not mistaken. It was going to be added staging area for nucleus.

Anyone with crains subscription want to give more insight?

This is a great read from 1975 most notably because it's talking about the activity on the malls back then: https://www.nytimes.com/1975/07/05/archives/downtown-cleveland-a-diamond-in-the-rough.html?unlocked_article_code=1.CE8.bCkJ.jjKa_T-olKxr&smid=url-share. Downtown Cleveland A Diamond inthe Rough CLEVELAND‐The crowd started to gather soon after 11 A.M. on one of those muggy days of early summer, when the haze is so thick that the blue‐gray surface of Lake Erie merges totally with the blue‐gray sky above. But the breeze blowing off the lake onto the grassy mall beside the Cleveland public auditorium was pleasant, and the crowd grew — businessmen in suits with briefcases, hard‐hatted construction workers with lunch buckets, Coast Guard officers, young people in jeans, mothers with children, blacks and whites. The whole city in miniature, it seemed. They clustered under the sycamores and relaxed on the park benches beside the petunia gardens and on the railing of a fountain's reflecting pool, and around the vending stands that sold kosher hotdogs and Italian meatball sandwiches and kielbase and knockwurst in envelopes of unleavened pita bread, and soft drinks and beer, gin‐and‐tonic and scotch‐and‐water. “Whip it on me!” yelled a good‐natured hard hat, and the little band there especially for the lunchtime carnival did just that. First some rock, then some jazz, then a little soul music and then a polka. Feet tapped all over the square. A middle‐aged black woman in a print dress broke joyfully into a polka. ... T.‐G.‐I.‐F. Blast Every Friday night, as many as 10,000 show up at a downtown “party in the park,” a kind of thank‐Godit's‐Friday blast with 25‐cent beer and live music. Each party ends around 8:30 so that those who attend will fan out into nearby nightspots and new restaurants with names like the Firehouse, Fisherman's Cove and Rusty Scupper.

If that were the case, we wouldn't have had The Paradox Prize Far too many Northeast Ohioans face a critical paradox: They don’t have a car, so they can’t get a job. And since they can’t get a job, they don’t have a car. In June 2019, the Fund for Our Economic Future set out to solve this chicken-and-egg challenge with up to $1 million in funding to support new and innovative ways to connect people to jobs and employers to the talent they need. Through a public competition known as The Paradox Prize, the Fund and its partners sourced more than 150 proposals from across the region—proving high demand for efficient, affordable and accessible transportation solutions. But back to this site - this neck of SV is pretty depressed/forgotten triangle feel. Not sure what could go in here that would boost the immediate neighborhood. To Ken's point, being downwind of the steel plant is an issue for residential, most days it's not a big deal, but other days you can taste it when you're in the area (you can submit complaints here for both Cleveland and Newburgh Heights). The neighborhood is about to get the metroparks treatment though with the new Slavic Village Connector, so I'd imagine industrial isn't the first thing city leadership would like. Also, Re: future industrial uses: Bessemer/Aetna seem like they could take on more industrial and are already in heavy industry areas/isolated.

Any word if sher lit up anything new last night?

I wonder if anything would come up in Burten Bell Carr records/meetings (Zone LLC). Click the presentation from their landmarks meeting to see some great photos of what used to be in this neck of the woods: https://cityofcleveland.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=6649131&GUID=E297C4A8-4004-4295-ACD7-5E2963583E53&Options=ID|Text|Attachments|Other|&Search=hungarian

United Soccer League Adopts Promotion and Relegation System, Ushering in a New Era for American Soccer https://www.uslsoccer.com/news_article/show/1334700

Any word on what this is about?

Discussion for some thread, somewhere, but they want to play next year so they picked a less than ideal site (it's in a sports complex that belonged to a college that went under) in an industrial area. Cheaper to expand on an existing site, but the chemical plant next door opposes it and it's pretty isolated versus a downtown site that was being floated. I'm curious if the pushback will result in anything. Back to Cleveland, though, even with the highway, it seems like the potential stadium site is much better re: transit access and just being convenient to the city/Gateway.

To be honest, I consider this a win: Fanatics Sportsbook at Progressive Field Shuts Down Due to Disinterest https://www.covers.com/industry/fanatics-sportsbook-at-progressive-field-shuts-down-due-to-disinterest-apr-9-2025 At the end of the article this is interesting (but probably fits in another thread): Several other Northeast Ohio organizations hold retail sportsbook licenses to operate but have not yet opened their facilities. They are the Cleveland Browns, the Hall of Fame Village in Canton, and the Spire Institute & Academy in Geneva.

Not sure this has anything to do with expansion, I think it was noise abatement. Feel free to correct me but the expansion was going to be on the southern part of the airport and land where the IX Center is - that's why Cleveland swapped land with Brook Park (IX Center (BP) for NASA (Cleveland)). Also an aside, you can also see the pattern of the runways and buffered safety areas off to the right of that image.

Has it been remediated? Those streets back in there are/were(?) a mess. Also looking at the owners of that property, it seems in 2022 they were trying for a warehouse on the site that was cleared of all the warehouse buildings and crap: But it'd be a pretty decent site with the RTA right across the street and access to R/G/B lines.

Wow, that's an attractive building!

Been a bad week for cool spots - Old Brooklyn Cheese also announced they're closing their storefront and shifting to focus on their mustard business. Glad they found a niche, but still bummed!

I think they misquoted him, listening on ideastream this morning he said multiple superbowls. Like wtf planet is this guy on, I doubt we get one - also host cities rarely make out in SB's, it's a lot of up front cost and local resources being drained.

I'm guessing because it doesn't require remediation of any kind (for the most part) and large swaths of undeveloped land vs trying to assemble in the city.

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The new Foundry opened its doors in Old Brooklyn for the first time on Saturday night. Wandered over there and wow, what a crazy transformation from the old Mr. E's. Also, all rumor, but there was a reddit thread this morning that said Psychopomp is closed which is a bummer for Brooklyn Centre. I know they were building out her space (and haven't seen much going on in there) while her trailer was temporarily set up (also haven't seen in months) next door. I spoke with her at Rooms to Let and she had mentioned issues they had with the trailer parked where it was. Really hope it's just a rumor and she gets the shop going, because that'd be a huge add to the new development. FWIW the buildings behind here were recently knocked down (like last couple weeks recent).

It’s only recent use has been the addition of an ATM — effectively preventing its collapse. lol what a quote