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Couldn't tell without being in the stadium, but they seem like red seats. Idk how my bldg's security would take to me bringing binoculars in to double check lol

Ugly day for a pic, but from yesterday - curious if they'll get the greens wiped out by opening day.

9AM day after Kurentovanje?? Phew that's risky haha

It's decently activated in the summer with the little stage there but there's no shade, you're absolutely burning up out there during the day. Maybe worth going into deeper discussion in the Streetscapes/Greenspace thread, though.

How bout that new Dawg Pound lol

Yep - I've only listened to two or so interviews with the mayor and he seems pretty levelheaded about all of it. I don't think he was actively looking to have a stadium built in BP and would probably prefer industry...but he's also not going to tell the Browns and this development to pound salt. All that said...Jimmy:

Absolutely, but at the same time people are coming after the original poster like he's lying or something. It's pretty dead over that way most times of the day, it's just what it is (for right now). Just because people don't agree with 99% of ADFWS' posts doesn't mean one isn't right.

I'm in agreement with you, no sense in painting this neck of the woods with rose colored glasses. Got out of the Charge game a few weeks ago and wanted to grab food/drinks around there. It was a Friday night, pretty much the only thing open on E9 around Lakeside/St. Clair was Winking Lizard (which closed at 10). Hopefully the development plans come true because from St. Clair to Gateway-ish there's not much of anything going on. Yes, it's probably 1000x better than 20 years ago, but there's still a lot of work to be done.

How does that benefit the city in any way vs just keeping them in downtown? If they're going to move to BP, BP should have to shoulder the burden, not Cleveland.

It's a small victory that it's in the county, too.

Thanks for including Buffalo's reuse of their silos. I know there's very little functional use to keeping them around but it's just a super cool homage to the past having them there. Obviously the scale would be different but there's something really awesome about hanging out surrounded by pieces of the city's history. Here's a photo from last summer up in Buffalo.

The big support for Nippon steel in pa was based on keeping white collar jobs in Pittsburgh/the headquarters in Pittsburgh. He's just acquiescing to that idea. Sidenote he's used the full force of their legal dept to go after a yahoo finance commenter so none of this behavior seems terribly surprising. Isn't his son in the company too?

Not going to say this as eloquently as some others, but once we have the new trains w/RTA, you won't need to switch from light rail to heavy rail trainsets. It'll still be a mess I'm sure (I think back to the Cavs parade trains), but a transfer point at Tower City won't be necessary. If I'm not mistaken, the new vehicles should be rolling around the same time that the stadium would be built. Still makes a lot more sense to keep them downtown, but if it is going to BP, something to think about.

I love how "urban_cleveland_retro" watermarked over a shutterstock watermark. Yeesh. Here's the link to the shutterstock archives: https://www.shutterstock.com/video/search/cleveland-1968, I'm sure with a little bit of searching you'd find the library or other public sources have these without the watermarks.

As a constituent, I'm genuinely curious what you have against her. She's been great for the ward and for daylighting a lot of council and larger city issues, especially compared to the ghost that Tony B. was to the OB part of Ward 12. I've worked the polls in her home precinct for two plus years and she's engaged with every single person (and knows names) who comes up to her when she's in the polling place, among other things I've noticed. Not looking to pick a fight I'm just curious what things have irked you.

I think he has a pretty great relationship with other mayors throughout the county and those same mayors recognize that we have the highest tax rates in the state; contributing tons of money towards a billion+ dollar enterprise isn't fiscally responsible when the county has a ton of fiscal problems as is. These snippets are important to consider w/funding for a new stadium...just exactly where would county funding come from?? The county is facing a projected $25 million budget deficit in 2025, it continues to rank among the highest poverty rates in the nation, and it’s preparing to invest about $1.5 billion in a new jail and courthouse. It’s also still trying to figure out how to keep up with repairs at Progressive Field and Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse, since spending has outpaced revenue. The county recently took on new debt to help pay off past-due repair bills while it tries to identify a more sustainable funding source.

Not trying to be a jerk, but where's this number coming from? And does it include telecommuters?

The city told citizens to submit Daves Redistricting Maps at their public meetings, so you're pointing the blame at Matt when in reality it's Blaine and co. that pushed folks to use it. They even feature Daves Maps on their site: https://www.clevelandcitycouncil.org/cleveland-city-council-redistricting#:~:text=Cleveland residents submitted seven (7) draft Cleveland ward maps during the process through Dave's Redistricting website. (To view them you must check the box next to "I Agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy" and then click Accept.) SV is cut into four wards in the new maps. I don't think she was ever pleased with having to cross through another municipality to get to the other half of the ward, but the new maps very obviously exclude her from SV (her neighborhood is next to Washington Park, new ward 5), meanwhile Ward 4 stretches across multiple neighborhoods to capture a piece of SV. Consultants got paid a lot of money to make these maps, the fact the public had minimal time to comment and they were voted on in the same meeting they were introduced speaks volumes. They knew this was coming and have had 2020 census data for years, but somehow the state and BOE are to blame for the compressed timeframe. Definitely an imperfect solution indeed.

Seems to be a popular talking point with the right, but it won't result in some major surge of office workers, most of them are already in the office the majority of the week: https://www.afge.org/publication/setting-the-record-straight-about-telework-use-by-federal-employees/. Of course this comes from a govt. employee union, but the sources they use to hit back at points are pretty neutral. Even with return to office, most people take meetings on zoom/teams even if everyone's in the same place. So in essence, you're sitting at your desk doing the same thing you do at home, you just happen to need noise cancelling headphones to focus.

No. They were on team Cliffs. https://m.usw.org/news/media-center/releases/2024/usw-commends-biden-for-blocking-uss-nippon-sale

I know it's only a rendering but once public comment opens please ask for something to protect folks from the cars flying down the road. Also, anyone who's used the beg button at the middle crossing knows how useless it is - another thing for comment! Regardless of my nitpicking, this is some good news, hopefully the city maintains it (snow removal being top of mind...).

Can't wait to see how they're paying for it. Sidenote: Twitter/X has always been a cesspool, but having been a few months removed...yikes, it's bad out there. Somebody let this guy know that 4/5 of these stadiums are in their respective city limits/downtowns.

Maybe we'll get some of the existing conditions reports out of the discovery phase? I'm no lawyer, but I feel like peeling back the lid is probably more of an issue to Haslam's/NFL than winning the case.

As of a 2022 article, there's about 8,000 people working for the City of Cleveland, out of those 8k people I'd bet maybe five are involved with stadium stuff with nobody focusing 100% of their time on it. When the media pokes him about the stadium do you want him to ignore and tell them to move on? It's not like he's holding a press conference every day about it.

I was also inadvertently down there and had no idea what was going on haha, they would pull the locomotive forward for a min, then back it up, forward, etc. Eventually (around 3:45-4) they got the locomotive moving and majority of the cars out of downtown and went south.