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Check out Asia town Tremont Ohio City Detroit shoreway Colinwood Shaker Square These are all City Neighborhoods. They will feel much more like a neighborhood than downtown, without pushing your commute too much. Which compared to Boston will be a breeze no matter where you live. as well as Downtown and the other suggestions such as UC and the heights, lakewood. For a commute to Mentor you will have/want to have a car.... for anything outside of downtown, parking becomes cheaper and/or free. The distance from Downtown to these places is 3 miles or less. I have sorted them in the order of best/easiest/most public transportation to downtown to least. Ohio City AsiaTown/Detroit Shoreway Tremont Not sure of the distance to Shaker Square/University circle but both have good PT to downtown and the commute is similar if not shorter...depends on how Busy MLK is during the rushes---although you will be going opposite of most traffic. 2 things to avoid.... 1) stay away from 480 for commuting if you can help it. (which every suggestion so far will conform to) 2) You do NOT want to be on 90 going through downtown ESPECIALLY going home from mentor....which means You only want Lakewood if you can do so near the end of State RT. 2 AKA the west Shoreway. And makes Tremont not nearly as attractive to you. If you worked in Independence or Solon this is a very good option. The area near W. 117th and Clifton (117th is one of the borders between Cleveland and Lakewood) has rentals and a reasonably walking neighborhood.

Yes and I chose this neighborhood. I am not suggesting ruling Battery Park out....just there many other options in this neighborhood, do consider them. Including renting for a year before buying anything and looking at the many fine re-habbed (or re-habbable) century homes. Drive down Franklin from 25th to 85th......absolutely gorgeous restored Victorians and row houses, as well as some new construction. This was why I chose this neighborhood and this particular location within the neighborhood. I was not going to settle for a "work for it lake sighting" over a "lake view".

I live a block away...I went there and looked at those townhouses. The "lake view" from one is not like the other...it is really simple. Being separated from the edge of the bluff by only the tracks and the road.....where the tree line has been cleared. or having 1-2-15 townhouses/powerhouse/warhouse industrial building on the edge and 20-300 feet between you and the road. where the trees have not been cleared. One of these things is not like the other.....but you and the OP don't have to take my word for it....those places are for sale, go look for yourself. Two things that most of battery park will have that the first alternate option does not (but all the others do) is a view of downtown. And being further away from the tracks (optimal lake view) also cuts down on the train noise. Being able to see the lake by going to the 1 special place in my 2200 sq foot townhouse != lake view, no matter how the Realtor(s) want to spin it. so you would have us believe go outside to that corner and look in that direction you can see the lake or go up to the third floor deck is equal to 40 feet from back from the north wall inside my townhouse on the first floor looking through the kitchen dining room and living room and I can see the lake.. and it only gets better each floor you go up

Every window/every room has a full on lake view. You don't have to go to the roof, or stand in this corner of this room and look out that direction when it is winter so there are no leaves on the trees. Like I said that was my thing..their thing could be brand new or special financing, or tax abatement.....The lake view and a 2 car attached garage were what sold me on where I ended up in the neighborhood. I don't have anything bad to say about battery park.....but go look at one of those units and then go to any or all of the first 3 on my list....one is a lake view the other is I can maybe see the lake if I work at it. Heck just look at the pictures attached to the listings, they do not do the lake justice....and like I said that is from every room in your place that you can see a north facing window. Even the fourth one will be a better view of the lake from the rooftop because those sit on a bluff and are 3 stories when everything else is 2. Battery park will give you a better lake view than 99% of housing options in Cuyahoga county especially on a $/sq ft basis....but it is not nearly what you would get with the first 3 alternatives I presented.

I looked at battery park and ended up 1 block over from there. My wife and I have been in the neighborhood for 2 years now. We lived in Tremont before that, she live in NYC before that. Strengths. Movie theater Cleveland public theater nice selection of restaurants/bars Sweet Moses old fashioned soda fountain/ice creamery.....so freaking good. The gordon square sundae is da bomb. Fourth of July is a crazy neighborhood block party......you will either love it or choose to be out of town. Still has a lot of the old "ethnics" Irish/Italians who's families have been in the neighborhood forever..turns out my great grandparents/grandparents generations live in the neighborhood on Herman and Tillman, they all played softball for the Parkview way back in the day Decent transit access, the 26 bus route and the red line which is walkable if you need to (1 mile from my place) Weakness, have to car to a grocery store Giant Eagle on 117th is 3 miles away...there is a Sav a Lot if you need something fairly basic. Highway access is pretty far unless you are getting on the shoreway going east. Once you get past where Detroit and Lake intersect. right where the BK is, it starts getting sketchier until you get past West Blvd and/or where the shoreway ends. Safety..... I wouldn't want my wife walking around at night. but we often walk up to detroit to Luxe or Gypsy bean or the movie theater..we also walk to YOLO, stone Mad, Reddstone and the parkview even after dark....Don't do anything stupid, pay attention. Go back or around if you see something sketchy...just common sense really. My wife coming here from Manhattan wasn't poisoned by years of Cleveland is scary... There is some graffiti and petty theft/car break ins. Nothing more than I saw in Tremont. And if you live in Battery Park or one of the places below you should not have really crappy neighbors like I had in Tremont. I welcome any/all new neighbors and would not discourage you from Battery park....my personal thumbs down to that particular development was ....too be soooooooo close to a lake view and yet so far away... which is why we ended up here This is the same condo complex I live in (there is another poster on the site who lives in these as well) These units are 10-12 years old. $204,900 http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/6915-Father-Caruso-Dr-Unit-13_Cleveland_OH_44102_M34974-94620 There are 2 rows of townhouses in the complex. 1 along Father Caruso parallel to the RR tracks/shoreway that have full frontal views of the lake, and 1 set along W. 69th st. This one is on the same street I live on and fronts the lake and is newer they also have some less expensive versions along 67th st that are not front on to the lake. $317,500 http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/6604-Father-Caruso-Dr_Cleveland_OH_44102_M44292-24319 This is over by the high school and has lake views and is by the highway kind of between Detroit Shoreway and Ohio Ciy $254,000 http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/4810-Tillman-Ave_Cleveland_OH_44102_M32490-60741 This is more in D/S and will have a lake view but further away from the park. $238,000 http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5413-Herman-Ave-Unit-6_Cleveland_OH_44102_M38467-09213 Feel free to PM me with any additional questions

Ground level retail will probably work in that building...I am trying real hard to figure out what can go in floors 2 and 3 (can't tell if there is 4th or is it attic)? I cant imaging anyone wanting to live there with a Parking garage wrapped around 3 sides of you. And I wonder if they can or will try to work some sort of entrance into the garage space, from the backs or sides. If they could "buy" like 8 or 16 spaces and be able to enter directly from the garage, somebody might consider living there. 4 units a floor if you have direct access parking.

Noble gas?

I live in Detroit Shoreway and often take the bus downtown for dinner or events. 15 minute ride and the 26 runs every 1/2 hour or so....the 45 also comes in from Parma and turns right onto Detriot at 65th. You can also make the walk 1/2 mile from detroit and w 65th to the rapid stop near St. Colemans. I have even waited to take the bus back to D/S as late as midnight, but will often get a cab...10 bucks for a cab ride. hope this helps Tremont is the same cab ride with much less frequent/reliable bus service. Ohio city is a piece of cake with the train and numerous bus lines. The 26 runs all the way down detroit and either turns where around the corner is at the lakewood/RR border or continues to where westgate is at Center Ridge and Wagar Rd.......this ride can take upwards of an hour. The 55 ends up there as well with many fewer stops along the way, and runs Clifton. Detroit has many more bars/restuarants/stores than clifton.

KJP not quite an alarm clock, I am up and out of bed. I just know I need to be leaving the bedroom and heading downstairs and not looking for my socks when it rolls by. Plus if I woke up every time a train went by I would be getting less sleep than a single mother with a colicky newborn I don't have a "Start" time at work, I just like to get in early and leave early, So I like to be in Beachwood no later than 6:30 so I can leave by 3:30 anything later starts adding minutes to my commute.

cant make it...out of town for work. somebody have a Guinness for me