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Sculley was my land lord when I lived in the Left Bank building in the Flats. He was a very interesting person... and by interesting, I mean... well, I'll just leave it at interesting.

February 19, 2007 Recent Congressional Votes - * Senate: Continuing Appropriations Resolution, FY2007 * Senate: Cloture Motion; Sense of Congress on Iraq * House: Small Business Tax Relief Act * House: Iraq War Policy resolution Editor's Note: The Senate is in recess until Monday, February 26. The House is in recess until Tuesday February 27. Recent Senate Votes Continuing Appropriations Resolution, FY2007 - Vote Agreed to (81-15, 4 Not Voting) The Senate gave final approval to this $464 billion bill funding government operations for the remainder of the 2007 fiscal year. Sen. George Voinovich voted NO Sen. Sherrod Brown voted YES Cloture Motion; Sense of Congress on Iraq - Vote Rejected (56-34, 10 Not Voting) The Senate rejected this motion to move to a final vote on this bill expressing opposition to President Bush's plan to send more troops to Iraq. Sen. George Voinovich voted NO Sen. Sherrod Brown voted YES Recent House Votes Small Business Tax Relief Act - Vote Passed (360-45, 28 Not Voting) The House approved this $1.3 billion package of small business tax breaks intended to be combined with the minimum wage increase. Rep. Dennis Kucinich voted YES Iraq War Policy resolution - Vote Passed (246-182, 6 Not Voting) The House passed this non-binding resolution disapproving of President Bush's plan to send additional troops to Iraq. Rep. Dennis Kucinich voted YES

Just the messenger on that one. I'll follow up.

The new Zen is almost complete with indoor demo work. Rob says he plans on being open by the fall. I told him I'll expect it to be open ion the winter.

MAGNET = Manufacturing Advocacy and Growth Network Physical Plant = where I work CSU Architect's office, Capital Planning, Mailroom, Surplus Equipment auction, Etc, The turbine is going on top of one of the buildings. As mentioned several pages ago, the president does not want the wind spire to be representative of CSU because of the Phallac look of it = he wants to hide it... next to a freeway.

Is it still there? How old was it? Is it a modern roundabout, or traffic circle like Cleveland has on the east side? What do you mean by "high" traffic... in Tallmadge.

Count me in. I would love to help out. The obvious meat of the mission statement should hit around education... IMO.

I just recently joined the world of cell phones with cameras. Is there a function that will allow us to take a picture of something cool (or stupid) and upload it directly to a specific thread on the forum?

X, et al, Thank you for providing comments with substance. This is what I am looking for. I am not taking any comments personally. My role in this project is as a representative of the CSU student body... or the users (students). I just wanted comments that I can forward to the consultants. I can't just tell them "they think its ugly." (I could but that is not going to make anything happen.) The comments given in the past couple of days are what I am looking for. Thank you. Let me try to comment on some of the things brought up - not defend, just clarify, if possible. But before I get into that, my personal feeling is, generally speaking, I like it. I think it could be much better, but I like the direction it is going. I like the way the Euclid "front door curve" is really a front door for all of Euclid Avenue, not just for Rascal House. The user traveling east can see the people sitting on the patio directly outside of the pub. The users sitting in the pub patio (and along the glass windows) can sit and watch other users and commuters along the whole street. This could not happen if the building was square along the street edge. I also like the way the inner-link bridge is reconfigured. The current layout is very disorienting. I feel they did a good job fixing that. I also love the terrace they created for the ballroom. There will be great views of the city from there, as there will be from the eight foot glass windows on the east side of the building in the bookstore and dining areas. I am not completely sold on the ballroom bulge. I really need to see the materials used on this before I can be sold on this idea. There are some things about the renderings that do not transfer well. Mainly, there is no reference to materials or colors proposed - this building is proposed to be transparent, mostly glass. However, based on past projects from GS, it will probably be concrete (white) steel and glass. I do not think I am wrong in presuming this. Anyway, I hope my esteemed forumers keep this in consideration when providing input. A few other things: The grid on the Euclid entrance was not there during the fist schematic drawings. Everything 3231 said came up at the last meeting. The University Architect hated it. After it was explained a little more, he did not hate it as much. Basically, the grid could be cantilevered over the entrance so it appears to float. GS said they are going to hire a lighting consultant to see how the grid could be lit at night. If the grid is not there, the souther sun light will shine directly into the building creating some solar heating issues, even if the windows are treated. The grid will help shade the windows. I think when GS was hired (the second time) we lost our opportunity to have something iconic for he university. I personally do not know what to do about that. In the first set of schematics a month ago, I pointed out to GS and the rest of the committee the issue of the pyramid skylight. I told them to make it higher. There is nothing to draw people to the student center, arguably the center of the university. It should be seen from the furthest corners of the campus. They argued it was more function then form. So what did they do about it... they removed it completely. Whatever. The building that will be more iconic for the university, if funded, ill be the proposed visual arts center I posted some time ago. The president absolutely loves Westlake's renderings and is supposedly calling in all favors to try to get that built. Ok, I think I am done with this for today. If I am going to write this much, I should be getting a grade for it. Map Boy, are you referring to windmills on the student center? If so, the answer will be not here. If you are referring to the wind spire, the answer: tied up in court over patent issues. Once settled, and it will be settle, building will start immediately and it wil built on either the MAGNET building or the Physical Plant Building.

From this motorist view (who has four children and does much to much commuting to various kid events and such), I would prefer there were more roundabouts. This way there would be less ware and tear on my car's breaks; I could drive from one place to another without stopping; I would use less gas; I would pay less in taxes (theoretically - although there would be significant saving for the local municipality) because the local government would not have to spend so much money every year replacing traffic signal lights (two for every intersection); I would have cleaner air to breathe (no cars idling in place for extended periods of time); I would not have to worry about other cars going through red lights and side-swiping my car (has happened)... Should I go on? [edit: grammer]

This is very cool. I am getting this feeling (as I imagine everyone else here on the forum is) of being able to tell people 5 - 10 years from now "Told you so." Here's the article: Dutch firm to design art institute expansion Saturday, February 17, 2007 Steven Litt Plain Dealer Architecture Critic Aiming for an iconic new building that will grab international attention, the Cleveland Institute of Art has hired MVRDV, a highly regarded Dutch architecture firm known for edgy, humorous and provocative buildings, to design a major expansion of its campus on upper Euclid Avenue. The project, which could cost $40 million and take three to four years, will be a major component of the University Arts and Retail District planned by Case Western Reserve University and local developers in University Circle. "Finally we got here," said David Deming, president of the art institute, Thursday, pounding his fists joyously on the round wooden conference table in his office. "This has been my dream since the day I arrived here" nine years ago. more at: http://www.cleveland.com

Htsguy, gavster: Your comments are based on what, a line drawing that is only at the 50% design level? A drawing that shows no materials used? How can you hate it. Are you a current, or past, user of the building? If you were here in the past, then you (as was everyone else who ever went to school here) were invited two years ago to take part in the planning studies. Were you there? I guess I shouldn't be upset with anyone who is critical of the plan. If I did not want to here the complaints, I could just NOT provide them for everyone. Or, if my fellow UOers provide real input, I could pass this on to the consultants. They would love to here it - they already took one of my suggestions seriously: the stupid skylight pyramid from the first set of schematics I posted a month or so ago has been replaced. It's up to you.

And here is the article: Thanks again.

^You are absolutely correct.

Thanks KJP. Earlier on there was talk about having the name of the zooo etched into the sides of the bridge, did they value engineer that out? I can make out the light poles on the bridge, but what are the smaller poles? Have you, or anyone, heard when the rescheduled (post-asbestos removal) demolition will be set? And finally, and most importantly, what is the guy in the bottom picture looking at?

Crain's:

And now, for my 1000th post, I humbly present to you...

Yes - part of the community. However, I think they had most of there input portion of this project during the actual planning phase which lasted about a year. I would think that the university architect would welcome any input.

Here are four different perspectives. They are Axon and Not To Scale.

That is not a lobby, that is part of the bookstore. The bookstore is multi level. The bookstore and the pub both have Euclid entrances. Only from members of the CSU community and ultimately the Planning Commission

I know the drawings don't show it, but: 1 - it will be closer to Euclid then the current building, while respecting the "Green Ribbon" feature already in the master plan 2 - not sure what you are referring to here, the windows will be oriented toward Eucild. not directly south facing, more like s - sw. I might have a better image showing this 3 - bookstore will be on first floor, retail dining and store are on second floor because that is where the innerlink is located = most foot traffic 4 - during the planning study, students and alumni said they wanted the bar/pub to not be in the basement (obviously) and have street access (since this will likely have extended hours) 5 - probably not going to happen

Maybe their could be a little Cyber Cafe' for members only. This way we can, uh... talk with... each other.

Reminds me of a girl I used to date. JOKE! RELAX!