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You are way off base there, 8 SoG. I take my kids there all of the time. They love the views, the buildings, the trees. We have lunch there some times, too. Does it need improvement? Yes, absolutely. I think groups like Parkworks are doing a great service by creating more programing there. Have you been to any of the Meet me on the Mall events this year yet? http://www.parkworks.org/images/MMOTM%20Plain%20Text%20Schedule3.pdf

^ They are really behind in the fund raising though As long a St. I's is filling in, not demo-ing and creating decent architecture, I think this is good news... and my son goes to Ed's.

The Moscone Center in San Francisco ( http://www.moscone.com/site/do/index has done a remarkable job of creating a world class convention center and a community center. The have day care, bowling, a carousel, plus many of the programming features mentioned by KJP. Don't see why we can't do the same. I know it wastalked about a lot when discussion of a new CC began about two years ago. I know because I was interning at city hall in the planning dept. and one of my projects was to research convention centers across the country (with help from fellow undergrad student at Levin).

I stopped by the rec center after the Young Professional event at the Botanical Gardens last Friday night and snapped some PM pics. (Brushing up on my skills).

You an me both. Just wait until you walk past it. Not a very pleasent experience at all. On a (hopefully) better note, I was just asked to serve on the committee as a student representative (one of two) that will assist in the planning of the Student Center. From all of the knowledge I have gained from this forum from my peers, the mistakes that were made on the rec center, will not happen. :-D

Missed this one, sorry. All of the phasing includes the current demo work going on on the plaza level classrooms (complete), stair tower construction, Plaza level infill, cage demo, new student center... in that order. Nope, my goal is to make me indispensable so I will have a job, if I need it, when I graduate. I am at the Rec Center today. The trucks are delivering half of the Cardio and other workout equipment. The second half comes in on Thursday. The place is looking really nice. The equipment has a metallic finish that really works in the center colors. Much better then the standard white.

Message from Mr. Stack on the Ohio City Yahoo Group:

SP is one of 5 sites being considered right now for a major new year-round cultural attraction. As is the Norfolk-Southern site by the innerbelt and the properties around the soon to be demoed Independent Towel Company. (stay tuned) If this proposal pans out, then having the convention/mart at FC may be beneficial for everyone in the immediate area. This will not bode well for the lakefront in terms of touristy things, but will still keep the area more residentially friendly. Of course, it still leaves to question what will become of the old CC.

At the West Shoreway meeting last week, somebody asked Craig Hebrebrand this question (but in regards to the shore project). He said no and 'seemed' surprised to hear it. Like nobody ever thogouht of that before. I thought the Cuyahoga River Valley Intermodal Connector study and Quigley Road Connector were addressing all of this.

^Both. It will be parking with green space incorporated into it. However, most of the center of the lot will stay open so that they can hold events there. Here are some "Dashboard Camera" shots from Friday morning.

From the Jay Hotel thread: And this was posted in the Ohio City Yahoo Group by Mr Stack.

News from the Planning Commision: Debbie Berry, now former Lakefront Plan Manager, will strat working at UC. Don't know in what capacity.

The next meeting is August 8 at St. Thomas Luthern on Lake Avenue. This is more of a block meeting, but anyone is encouraged to come. The next big public meetin, which "should" have better renderings then the line plots they had yesterday, will be in the fall.

^And you did a fine job of it... I didn't even know there was a baby there. As some of you may know, I am a big proponent of the modern roundabout. I was bothered that the concept was removed from the Lake/Clifton/West interections. I think that is one of the most perfect areas for one. I was, intrigued that they would suggest placing one at the Wetr 25th/Detroit intersection. I actually do not hink that would be a good area for one.

Of course, but as I mentioned I really get into the music over the words and the way Guthrie and company play the song makes me feel like I am riding on train in the city. Dealin' cards with the old men in the club car Penny a point, ain't no one keepin' score Pass the paper bag that holds the bottle :drunk: And feel the wheels rumblin' neath the floor Night time on the City of New Orleans Changin' cars in Memphis, Tennessee Halfway home, we'll be there by mornin' Thru the Mississippi darkness rollin' down to the sea

Excellent presentation KJP. If I were mayor of a a western suburb, I wold be convinced. :clap:

Yeeeaaahhh. Very exciting news.

I had a whole bunch I was going to list, then I reread the thread title and realized the songs are supposed to be PRO-urban. Nevertheless, I still want to mention a few that meant the most to me growing up. The earliest I can remember is, "The Night Chicago Died" by Paper Lace. Something about Al Capone in Chicago excited me. In the 80's (my punk rock years) I was really into The Clash. The song that stuck to me was "London Calling," which is so much more about politics then cities themselves. However, to this day I still have images of large urban cityscapes when I hear the song. In retrospect, I think the doom & gloom, and dissolution & paranoia of songs like this helped instill the sense of pride I now have for cities and Cleveland in particular.... or maybe I'm just a freak. As I matured musically and began working as a Dj at clubs like Hanks Cafe in Lakewood, the Lift/Aquilon/Smart Bar, 9.0 Bar, etc., I preferred to listen to music with little or no words. I preffer the music over the lyrics. The band that influenced me the most in the late 90's would have been The Future Sound of London and their album "Dead Cities." Again with the doom and gloom, but this time with a post-apocalyptic slant. Recently, I have been really into Mashups. There is a band called the Kleptones that release free internet only albums. There is one in particular called "24 Hours" that really gives the feel of living in the city and what can happen in a 24 hour period. (The length is only 2 hours and 16 minutes. You can download it here: http://www.kleptones.com/pages/downloads_24h.html Here are is a list of other songs that are not necessarily favorites of mine, but are still worth a listen and in the right context, can bring about good feelings. I've been everywhere - Johnny Cash Detroit Rock City - Kiss Take me home, country roads - John Denver Viva Las Vegas - Choose your artist New York, New York - Choose your artist Route 66 - Choose your artist California Dreamin' - The Beach Boys (I know, this is a sate song) Sweet Home Alabama - Lynyrd Skynyrd (Ditto) Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult (Come on, Tokyo baby!!!) Panama - Van Halen Vancouver - Violent Femmes Singapore - Tom Waits Life in a Northern Town - Dream Academy Metro - Berlin Hollywood Nights - Bob Seger R.E.M. – Leaving New York Collective Soul – Over Tokyo Istanbul (Not Constantinople) - They Might Be Giants Amsterdam - Coldplay Fake Tales of San Francisco - Arctic Monkeys Los Angeles, I'm Yours - The Decemberists Oslo in the Summertime - Of Montreal Allentown - Billy Joel New York State of Mind - Billy Joel Say Goodbye to Hollywood - Billy Joel L.A. Woman - Doors New Orleans - Ballboy City, I'm Sorry - Logh Angel of Harlem- U2 Come Back From San Francisco - The Magnetic Field City of New Orleans - Guthrie Kansas City - Wilbert Harrison Werewolves of London - Warren Zevon I'll Take New York - Tom Waits Straight To The Top (Vegas) - Tom Waits London - The Smiths Under the Bridge - Red Hot Chilli Peppers Maid of Orleans - OMD Midnight Train to Memphis - Kid Rock Queen of Las Vegas - b52s And of course, how can there be a list without this song Cleveland Rocks - Ian Hunter

Very nice. If this is successful, it will provide an interesting twist to the Burke debate. And, I just happen to need a round trip ticket to Cincy in the fall.

Hmmm, how to save money, and travel time. I know, how about creating roundabouts at the intersections instead of light traffic signals.

Wow, I felt completely different about Saturday night. I thought the crowds added to the energy. And at least half of the bands were worth some attention. I skipped out of the Verb Ballet performance because I knew a dance about 9/11 would probably be a downer. No your not. I couldn't even talk to you because of all the attention you, er, uh, Sadie was getting. In the performances I saw, there was always a presenter reminding people what was coming up next. Although, this was before the particualr performance, not after. Yes, the May Co. was amazing... ...and sad. I liked that this was chosen for some of the tech stuff over last years location, the BP building, which always closed too early. The East 5th Alley stage was super-duper cool. Somebody could hold events there throughout the year. There were 50% discounts for not only the Tall Ships folks, but also for anybody who was staying in a hotel downtown, people who lived or worked in within the festival area, and employees of any of the sponsers... which were many. This year was proposed to be significantly bigger, but much of the funding fell through a few months earlier. Although some funders pulled through at the last minute, it was not enough to pull off everything they wanted. I'm told a person was hired (don't recall the name) who is an expert at fund raising and that next years festival will be kick-ass... my words, not theirs. My absolute favorite event of the festival was DJ Spooky and Kasumi. In-fricking-credible stuff. The most surreal part of the festival would be seeing Howard Maier, executive director of NOACA, and his wife sitting next to me during the DJ Spooky and Kasumi show.

I took a peek in their windows this past weekend and saw that there has been no action in a while. The alley side was to be full of windows (where the squares are - the picture shows the only one actually cut out). The basement level, the only place where you can actually see what's going on, has also been left vacant for a while. I checked out their webiste - http://www.fantasy-one.com/index.html - nothing updated. I called the number provided - disconnected Next call - Cimperman.

He hasn't been on for a while now, but Ryan has told me he would like to have at least another car at CSU... but not until there is a little more critical student mass - in other words, three to five years.

Thank you very much. Some day I will have a decent camera to take pictures with... probably not until after graduation though. Your mom :-o ... really? Cool - which one? Here are some more photos from iNGENUiTY. These are from Saturday late afternoon and evening. I ended up not going on Sunday - the kids did not want to go because it was to hot... babys. The full Flickr set from Saturday (all 54 pics) can be found here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/muscatello/sets/72157594201576037/show/

Cleveland Public Art put out a press release last week regarding the art component for the wind turbine. I am dissappointed. you can read about it here: http://clevelandplanner.blogspot.com/2006/07/windworks-is-coming-to-science-center.html