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What local bloggers are saying about ... this site's comments and dancing like your mom Posted by JKroll November 17, 2008 05:47AM A roundup of opinion and information from local blogs Christine at Really Bad Cleveland Accent wants more people to add their comments to cleveland.com, to combat what she calls a "cesspool of ignorance": I've come to the conclusion that by not participating, we are committing the intellectual equivalent of suburban flight. That is, we are taking our intellectual tax base and fleeing to the fringes, to where people are more like us, rather than staying behind and trying to change things for the better. We are leaving what should be the epicenter of intelligent discussion about our region -- our daily newspaper -- to decay just like we left our urban core to decay. Rob Pintingolo, Extraordinary Observations, doubts that good comments can drive out the bad: While I give Christine Borne props for calling on the blogosphere to clean up Cleveland.com, I am afraid that it is a job that simply can't be solved from the grassroots. The problem, of course, is that even posting rational, well written comments will do little to spur intelligent discussion. Intelligent posts are mocked and attacked ad-hominem. At the end of the day, the exercise is mentally and emotionally draining for those of us who care about injecting reason into a cesspool of ingorance. You can find another view at Lustfelt 4 My Rustbelt. But enough about us. While politics has consumed many blogs in recent weeks, there have been posts about other things. Like this one from Alexa on Cleveland's a Plum: i have moves you've never seen before... on the dance floor. or at least i did. until i suddenly turned into a 40 year old white woman with four kids and a minivan. when did the transition from me wearing tight black pants while booty poppin' to me doing the chicken dance at weddings happen? it's like i blinked my eyes and i started dancing like my mom. Michael Ruhlman says we're a nation of culinary sissies, making up imaginary allergies: My favorite stories are from servers who tell of customers who claim to be allergic to dairy--so no milk, cream, or butter--and then order the cheese at the end of the meal. People allergic to grapefruit? Or sweet peppers? Please. Fennel? Come on. As Harold McGee writes in On Food and Cooking, an estimated 2% of the adult population have food allergies. ... All other "allergies," my guess is, stem from ignorance and fear and a generally food-neurotic culture. I wonder if the French and Italians and Spanish, who tend to be so sensible about how and when to eat, report a similar incidence. Any servers reading this? I'd love to hear the best "I'm allergic to" story. Finally, an utterly wonderful post on Fivehusbands. It starts with a letter she found among her father's things, a letter written decades ago: Oran le 12 Fevrier 1946 Dearest Carl, I am sorry to answer so late your long and charming letters which reached me only in January; because I have had a lot of troubles home, though I have been thinking of you and I am thinking at you always. ... I am pretty sure, Darling, that you can't come back to Oran, but I will surely go to the States to see you, if you care to give me your address. ... Ho, la la --- oh! Darling I think of you always, and the good time we had together. I like often to see like you the little pictures! souvenirs of our good time, and in the last one that you sent wish your letters, I see you a lot better, I can see pretty well your insouciant smile. Fivehusbands proceeds to tell the story of discovering the letter, and fitting its words into the puzzle of her father's life: I never knew my father as anything but a disappointed man. His happiness, when it came, was rarely shared with his children. It softens his memory to know that he was young and charming and happy. It's a touching, complex story. Well worth the reading. Comments dbra says... "cesspool of ignorance": that statement was actually made by Rob Pintingolo bUt - Thank you to them both for speaking the ugly truth- the article forgot to mention another Cleveland.com phenomena - as soon as someone dOEs post something intelligent, the entire blog disappears... Posted on 11/17/08 at 8:43AM BlueRauchm4n says... The problem here is a systemic one, rooted in the illicit hiring practices at this site. Obviously, when the fools running this site decided to hire uneducated clown 'bloggers' like Dan Labbe who post utter drivel (that up until recently made the spell-check on Microsoft Word puke), bring on graphic artists who can't figure out how to proportionately resize images for articles, and appoint 'editors' who either don't review material or review it only to the point where the multitude of errors indicate a Kent State education (Kent Read, Kent Write, Kent State), Cleveland.com as an entity decidedly set a precedent of failure, ignorance, and carelessness, which has given the majority of its users no incentive to post anything that could be considered remotely close to being intelligible. You've set the bar low enough for disgraces like ItsAlex to feel as if she is empowered to espouse her ill-conceived theories about the Indians. Through their negligence, the imbeciles in charge of this site have allowed an undignified pack of buffoons, racists, philistines, and noobs to run wild on the forums, silencing any voice of reason, and if anyone has the audacity to criticize the site, they are promptly banned and their posts deleted. Posted on 11/17/08 at 10:15AM

^What season was this game played?

Huntington moving to 200 Public Sq. HQ shift to 45-story former home of BP includes right to affix bank's name to top By STAN BULLARD 4:30 am, November 17, 2008 Huntington Bank has won the right to see its name in lights on Cleveland's skyline after committing to move its northern Ohio headquarters to 200 Public Square, but it will be a couple years before the Huntington Building at 917 Euclid Ave. loses its namesake tenant. More at crainscleveland.com http://www.crainscleveland.com

Multiple city casino push will gamble on host areas' support Posted by dsims November 14, 2008 22:10PM Download map (PDF) Gambling referendums in Ohio almost always pass in the county where the casino was to be located and its neighboring counties, but voters farther away generally oppose it. This could bode well for a new attempt to establish gambling in Ohio. Backers of Issue 6, the most recent failed effort, say they now are planning a referendum that would establish casinos in Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati, Youngstown and Toledo, as well as Wilmington in Clinton County. For the new, multicity gambling initiative to succeed, the question might be whether it could generate enough "yes" votes in the casino counties, plus enough "yes" votes from nearby counties to offset the "no" votes statewide. John Green, director of the Bliss Institute of Applied Politics at the University of Akron, said the strategy might have merit. "Ohio voters tend to oppose gambling on moral grounds and those concerns may be mitigated by the promise of economic development and jobs in their own communities," Green said. "Casinos elsewhere offer no such benefits to allay moral scruples." Statewide, the unofficial tally on Issue 6 was 3,352,931 (or about 62 percent) opposed, and 1,981,490 (about 37 percent) votes in favor of allowing the casino and resort. For more analysis visit http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral

Pwaaahaahaahaahaahaa Oh... you were serious

OK. You got me with Restoration Hardware. I guess we each have our opinions on what is "attractive" to them. To me LV and CP are just strip malls surrounded by parking. That make an attempt to feel act like downtown, yet not urban in any way; not truly open to or accessible to all or unique or exciting. But CP isn't just a strip mall. There is housing and office space. The town homes are attractive - at least from the outside.

After reading that: [*]I'm in the midst of a Stroke [*]I've suffered a mild heart attack [*]Dementia has set in early [*]All of the above "mini urban" experience? To me that translates into a "sanitized" faux experience minus any unique (ie different) people, business or venues Cool building? WTF?! I'm not sure how old you are, but have you ever had the experience to shop downtown? I'd rather take the train downtown and walk around and shop than drive to a parking lot then walk around something that pretends to be downtown. ::) I know I'm going to sound like an snob - but I really don't care - as a high end luxury shopper, what at CP can be considered "hip" or "cool" :? Somebody...anybody... let a brotha know! Restoration Hardware And I do not have a problem with growing cities wanting to (re)create the urban experiences they see in older cities. We've gone over this hundreds of times in dozens of threads. If I had to choose what type of shopping experience outer-ring suburbs get to have (Great Northern version vs. Crocker Park version), CP will always win. This has nothing to do with downtown. Yes everyone here would agree that their particular urban setting downtown needs more retail, but that does not mean the outer rings cannot create their own.

That's an excellent idea. Keep in mind the Medical Mart/Convention Center possibly going on the TC site. Depending on the design, your proposal would partially, if not completely compromised.

I rock.

Crocker park is nice But this is awfully subjective, no?

I officially support it. :D

I believe ifthings progress in the direction we are hearing, we won't haveto worry about any other alignmet other then the current one.

I liked artichokes

Zen is set to open this week. Rob did and excellent job with the place.

From Ingenuity last summer. Taken from the roof of the Center for Neighborhood Solutions

^ I recommend the Pumpkin/Duck pizza.

We have a contest winner!

Just wanted to make sure everyone saw this one. ;D

No, you can include Lorain County too - we're on day 115 of the US 6 Bascule Bridge f$&k up which has taken one of only two bridges across the Black River in Lorain out of commission for nearly four months due to incompetence on ODOT's part. http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/a-bridge-too-far-up-the-yin-yang-odot-stacy-and-schon/ That wasn't ODOTs fault. The part needed to fix the bridge took longer to manufacture then expected. Plus people kept stealing the metal works from the construction site. Besides, they started testing the bridge today.

No, you are not. Sometimes you have to choose your battles MTS. If you had kids you would understand.

There's a protest going on right now at the West 14th Street ramp. Here are a couple of shots from someone else - not sure if they will work though

that gave ME a headache

Does that mean just in one building or total, because I think the Corps of Engineers is gone too

I have an idea for a new thread. Random Discussions with MTS