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The ones that got cancelled due to COVID were going to be there.

100% agree with this. That is how apartments are in other cities where there has been a longer tradition of people living in apartments in the downtown.

Same here. I have lived in multiple different cities, and my neighborhood now is probably the safest urban neighborhood I have lived in.

If something is not going to have the abatement, then that certainly hurts the property value, as far as I could tell when we were looking. Not the case across the board, but the fuller gut rehabs also tended to have higher end finishes. On the second point, I think that is caused in part by the fact that if a builder is putting the money into a new heating system, new water heater, insulation, etc. to meet the abatement requirements, they are going to end up needing to hit a higher price point, which then drives the choice to do more expensive finishes.

That is very slow. Ours took about a year on a new construction, although it was submitted and approved after yours. Have you checked in on it at all?

Neither are new builds. They both have to meet a variety of green building standards for energy efficiency. The cost of building homes to the abatement standards is quite a bit more expensive, the insulation and windows in particular.

That's disappointing to hear. They are a very good price point for Ohio City (albeit very edge). Although I could see the first few being a slow sale while it is a big open field, and then them picking up steam as additional groups are added.

I'm all for us saving historic homes and buildings in the city, especially given the carnage of the 20th century on that front. So, if it can be moved and rehabbed, or incorporated into the project, then that is great. But I also don't think we should let an abandoned building stop a developer from building multiple new buildings that are actually going to be used and that will make it more likely that other existing abandoned/under-utilized buildings in the area will be used and saved before they are too far gone.

Yes, exactly. NIMBY: "We should stop approving new buildings because developers are building all luxury units that only the rich can afford." Developer proposes building with smaller units that are cheaper, but still allow people to live in the same immediate neighborhood that has become more expensive. NIMBY gets upset because they don't want the kind of people who live in smaller (i.e. cheaper) units in their neighborhood. (Which they don't expressly say, and instead dress up with other concerns.)

Even if people didn't use the bikeway, it would at least make it visually look like an active city street, and not like an abandoned highway in a movie.

Looks like the next phase of these is finally getting going: https://www.redfin.com/OH/Cleveland/1439-E-14th-St-44115/unit-14/home/174460409

Ah, that does make sense

Does anyone know what this development is? It sounds big, but I don't think I've seen it before. (Or maybe I'm just forgetting amidst everything proposed). 9:30 Calendar No. 20-204: 2429 Superior Ave Ward 3 Kerry McCormack 149 Notices Cuyahoga County, owner, and Grammar Properties propose to erect an 11 story, 233,000 square foot mixed use development consisting of 167 apartment units, 130 hotel rooms, 2,000 square feet of commercial use, and an 180 space parking garage. https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/bza/agenda/2021/crr02-22-2021.pdf

But this is a historic neighborhood and we shouldn't be touching the historic surface parking lots!

Are they building on the parking lot corner, or taking over one of the existing buildings?

Room Service is closing their Ohio City location unfortunately. The public statement vaguely mentioned some other project on the west side taking its place, so fingers crossed it is also in Ohio City and not out in the suburbs.

I’m not sure I follow. Lower income people who haven’t been able to save a full down payment shouldn’t be able to buy a home even though they can afford the payment otherwise? I’m not taking about 2005 style ARM loans with nothing down. These are programs organized by public agencies or community organizations to assist qualified buyers.

Combine that with the city tax abatement program (assuming it is extended), this would really give affordable residential property in Cleveland an edge. Most of the buyers would also presumably qualify for down payment assistance or closing cost assistance programs, making these homes potentially very attainable for people of modest means.

I biked around DC a fair bit when I lived there, and I always found the center median lanes along Penn Ave to be the safest feeling. Much more so than the far right lanes due to turning cars.

This has the potential to be huge. Thanks for posting. We all love the huge projects (because they are awesome!) but the work of revamping individual homes is really what transforms neighborhoods. Ohio City, Gordon Square, and Tremont have benefited mostly through all the work over the past 20 years renovating previously worn houses and building new houses on the open lots. And it is way easier to do that sort of work in an area where you don't immediately end up under water on the house due to depressed home values. This also will create increased opportunities for families to purchase homes for sub-250k, which is a price range that is really hard to hit without some sort of subsidies.

That was DoorDash in Stone's Levee: https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/doordash-brings-warehouse-cleveland-while-amazon-deal-expires Who knows what a Lyft Center is.

Maybe they can add a corporate museum to underage drinking/fake IDs on the front lot?

The disconnect between the "Everyone's Welcome Here" sign on W25th, and the reaction that people in the area have anytime a building is proposed that will make it easier for more people to live in the area, is astounding.

I like that a lot. Fulton is a major road so it makes sense for the density between Lorain and Detroit/Franklin to extend along that road.

I agree, those are attractive. Are those on the narrow lot bordering Smith Ct., rather than the large open lot bounded by Abbey, Smith Ct, W 19, and W 20?