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I know this isn't Cincy Streetcar news, but I thought the following anecdote would be an interesting addition to the thread. XUMelanie and I just closed on a second property on the streetcar line. This time it is an 1880s brownstone condo with three bedrooms to accommodate our two kids (current condo has only two bedrooms). We paid quite a hefty price knowing that we would be able to enjoy the improved transportation accessibility as well as amenities that are coming to the area in part due to the streetcar. Had the streetcar project been cancelled we were planning on moving out of downtown/OTR. It's impossible to know if the place we purchased would have sold for what we're paying for it, but my gut feeling is the property would have sold for less had the streetcar plan been put back on the shelf. Now the city/county will be enjoying a bit more in property taxes.

There actually two fantastic dentists as well as two primary care physician locations (see below) downtown. PM me if you have any questions. The Christ Hospital Physicians - Primary Care (312 Walnut St) - this is where I go UC Health Downtown Medical Office - Primary Care (US Bank Tower at 425 Walnut St) - http://healthnews.uc.edu/news/?/23624/

Tell me about it. We just had a bid recently accepted on a three bedroom condo near Washington Park. Even though it cost us two arms and a leg it still seems like a steal compared to some of the other stuff that's coming online lately.

What are those spots that look like big holes? Also interesting: (from: http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2014/01/10-below_zero_in_forecast_shar.html#incart_river_ ) Here are the eleven times since 1900 that the official Cleveland temperature has reached 15 below zero, or lower. -20 Jan. 19, 1994 -19 Jan. 24, 1963 -18 Jan. 20, 1985 -17 Jan. 21, 1985 -17 Jan. 21, 1984 -17 Jan. 17, 1982 -17 Jan. 17, 1977 -17 Jan. 23, 1963 -15 Dec. 22, 1989 -15 Jan. 16, 1977 -15 Feb. 26, 1963 ^the data is from 1900-on---which means all the coldest days have been SINCE 1960--there hasn't been one day between 1900 and 1963. The earth is getter colder. And warmer. First of all, the days we have had a temperature at or below -15 degrees in Cleveland, OH as a measure of global warming is completely misunderstanding the whole concept of global climate change. However, let's just assume for this argument that your point is valid. I've re-sorted your copy and pasted results from the article in chronological order. You'll see that we haven't had any days below -15 degrees in the last two decades. Not only that, but the statement that we were warmer before 1960 is a bit specious since really good, accurate individual measurements of temperature weren't done until the 1950's or so. Can you provide a link to daily temperature measurements from before 1953 in Cleveland? I'm having quite a difficult time doing so. -20 Jan. 19, 1994 -15 Dec. 22, 1989 -17 Jan. 21, 1985 -18 Jan. 20, 1985 -17 Jan. 21, 1984 -17 Jan. 17, 1982 -17 Jan. 17, 1977 -15 Jan. 16, 1977 -15 Feb. 26, 1963 -19 Jan. 24, 1963 -17 Jan. 23, 1963

Number of cars would make it even more interesting.

There still is a Wendy's on 4th St between Main and Sycamore.

Sure, you want someone who understands the issues. Someone who can make sound decisions with the tax payer money with the information available, Laure has no ability to do this. When you ask her what the city needs, all she says is more art work, more murals, etc. Now while these things are important there should be a pragmatic approach to this. While she supports the streetcar she blindly supports a bunch of other projects without any rationale for the costs, etc. At least Qualls, Seelbach, etc have demonstrated they at least take those isues into consideration. As far as I am concern Quinliven is a worthless clown. You've got her to a "T". Unfortunately, she tends to vote quite often on items I agree with that come before City Council, so *sigh* she gets my vote.

Well, downtown the vast majority of those who live there are white, but in OTR... :drunk:

That might work. I guess that anything including parks or retail would have to take into account the pollution as well for any humans that spend any decent amount of time on them.

I do kind of question growing food just above pollution spewing vehicles that travel beneath it 24x7.

I think the reason people are aptly comparing this piece to the tabloid Enquirer and 700WLW is that: 1) The price assumption of the event was way off and in fact was doubled. 2) The costs associated for the event was not researched at all and uneducated guesses were presented as fact. 3) The assumed demographic makeup of the event was based on tabloid photos and not on personal or eyewitness accounts. 4) In the article a blogger was quoted out of context and did not include his overall opinion of the event. These are tactics used by the likes of COAST, Chris Smitherman and Tom Luken to support arguments against city projects like the Cincinnati Streetcar and city-wide recycling. Starting with an established opinion and making up facts about this event in order to support the opinion is at best intellectual laziness and worst unethical reporting. Even though I disagree with the idea that events like this cannot be held in Washington Park or Lytle Park, I do get it that others might find the event inappropriate. However, the way the article was written is a black eye on what I once regarded as a trustworthy source of information.

I'm a little slow on the uptake. Can you explain? I'm guessing the point is that the entire half block between Clay/Main and Central Parkway/12th is the crappy architecture Salvation Army building, the gutted Davis Furniture building and a couple of surface lots. It seems like a perfect section for redevelopment especially considering the streetcar line. The problem is that the Salvation Army building is currently actively being used. They would have to be OK relocating to make it happen.

Is the fingerprint reader and 64-bit processor not new or innovative?

I was hoping for some Macbook Pro announcement although I'm hopeful there will be one by the end of the year. Our four year old one is getting long in the tooth and I'm looking forward to a lightning fast solid state hard drive.

I'm nominating this thread "troll post of the year" :evil:

For our family car-lite means only having one car payment and not two (although none now since the car is paid off). It also means a deep discount in insurance rates since we do not use the car for commuting. It may not be well known, but insurance companies do give steep discounts if you certify you do not use a car for commuting purposes. It also means we don't need to worry about two car spaces for parking purposes. Having to drive only occasionally means wear and tear on our only car means we'll have this car for many more years than the average family. Filling up the gas tank every couple of weeks or so is hardly a bank breaking event. To us it is quite comical to hear the media as well as random people complain about the slightest daily price change in a gallon of gas. It seems like the car-lite lifestyle is rarely spoken about and I'm perplexed as to why. The conversation seems polarized between people touting the freedom of driving everywhere with their multiple cars and a completely car-less existence. What's so bad about having all the benefits of being able to drive somewhere if need be, but also having drastically decreased costs of having just a single car that only leaves the garage a couple of times a week?

I know this plan is just plain terrible, but would this be something that would cause a ton of short term pain, but ultimately make the system solvent? I can't imagine a scenario where politicians would ever, ever address this problem until some thirty years or so from now. At that point, the city would face an equally terrible or worse situation. I'm sure those involved with the ballot initiative were driven by the same thoughts/concerns.

I had noticed the signs that were put up in the last year and have been pretty impressed with them. My hope then and now is that there would be some application or service that would allow people (that weren't lucky enough to be at one of the few locations with electronic signs) to be able to find out when/if a bus would be coming.

According to a post on the SORTA/METRO website posted June 27, 2012: "Metro also plans to add real-time information to its website and offer smartphone apps within the next year." Does anyone know the status of real-time tracking of the Metro buses? Someone here at work had issues today because they thought they had missed a bus (he had to drive in), but in reality the bus was just running late.

Well, it was all of Hamilton County really, but I completely agree with the tar and feathering sentiment.

One year Chris Monzel called me up just before an election to explain that he was a streetcar supporter and that I was misled into believing he was against the project. I'm just saying that you should take what a politician says to you as an individual with a cellar of salt and vote more in line with their actions and public comments.

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When I shopped at the downtown Brooks Brothers a couple of years ago I found their clothing to be cheaply made and definitely more expensive than other retailers (particularly for the lack of quality). That and they couldn't even be bothered to spell my last name correctly in their system even though I purchased clothes with a credit card. Good riddance.

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I thought most of OTRCH's members are STILL protesting the Washington Park renovations. A bit of an irony that you're making being close to the park a selling point for potential renters.