Jenny

Right, data centers employee far less than 200 people. My opinion, huge loss if this transitions to a data center.

That was somewhat my point. I don't think the City had to lose them. It seemed the focus was too centered on them staying put at their current location, which didn't work with Haslam's vision. My initial thought at the beginning was relocating them to the Wolstein Center site, which allows Haslam to acquire properties around it for redevelopment. Or the St Vincent Hospital site.

I'll go back several months and bring up a basic point. It's shocking to me that the City of Cleveland isn't ecstatic they have the potential to reclaim premium lakefront property for year round revenue generating developments, and sought out a viable option within the City of Cleveland through the land bank, or some othere group to move them to. The fact they want them to remain in place makes very little sense to me. Unless they have zero trust in private development actually occurring due to an extreme lack of interest. If that's the case, that's unfortunate.

It reminds me a bit of Gillette in Foxborough. Similar concept. Hotels, restaurants, some stores and a large team shop surrounding a stadium.

@dustinfoxwouldsay Just curious, I really don't know. Why will Gateway be desolate in 2029?

I can't see the entire article, but that's frustrating.

Is there anything "med mart" about it any longer? Or has that concept officially been abandoned?

So what is the Breakwater development theyre prepping for? I thought that was already built.

I'm assuming if Haslam didn't own the team, they'd be playing at OSU?

There's portion of a Target store there also that was never completed.

Hard to tell if this is Harrisburg or Cleveland! Neat photo!

The Cleveland lakefront has a similar issue to the rest of downtown Cleveland. Essentially no residential neighborhoods that abut it. Every residence that surrounds the center city of Cleveland is the result of a new development/neighborhood that was ground up construction. That's why I have always viewed investment into the single family homes in Asiatown as a significant game-changer in Cleveland. If only that could go the way of Ohio City. Literally the only "neighborhood", albeit small, that flows into the city. With regard to Baltimore, Fells Point, which is a fantastic neighborhood, has a direct connection to the Inner-harbor along with the Center City. Then the south-end of Baltimore is lined with fantastic residential stock flowing into the city.

That too. Yes.

I'm sure the Browns Fiasco has played into that somewhat.

Is the athletic club on the roof of that garage still open?

AI is similar to any other "natural resource". Takes effort to capture it through engineering and construction, but once the structure and system is built, general maintenance can produce it forever for a nominal fee.

Not to mention I 71 has very light traffic, for the most part, making the trip from Cleveland to Columbus extremely easy and quick by car. I use the train in Boston constantly, but that's because driving on 95 and 93 is terrible! Much quicker and easier to commute by train. It would be a tough sell on the consumer to get their butt's in train seats, given the higher cost (most likely) and longer door to door trip times. Despite the fact it would be awesome if a rail line existed. I'd love to see more frequent and faster service to Washington, Philly and NY.

I don't understand the hotel demand, but glad it's happening. We're shedding office workers as part of a "workforce" shift in huge numbers since the early 2000s, yet adding more hotel spaces. Where were all the hotels when office space was jammed with employees in the 90s? I suspect there were alot more business travelers visiting downtown Cleveland then versus now.

Wait, that building sold for 3.6MM? The entire building? Wow!

The only contribution I have. I'm sick of having several legnthy teams calls per day with people that work in my office, but are never there at the same time. Just when I'm being productive, the third reminder of the morning pops up with a teams call in 15 minutes. I talk on the phone/computer more now than I ever have, and legnthier conversations, then ever before. Sometimes I really wish that everyone was in the office, on the same schedule, everyday, so I could pop my head in their space for a minute, and move on.

Agreed, I had a couple fun nights there as a youngster. But the venue itself was super lazy! That shot of Cleveland looks brutal. I know not much has changed in that picture, but it's beginning to. And it makes me wonder why the region was stagnant with development for soooooo long. My guess is it's a generational thing, and what the market currently demands.

As in the Max Collaborative?

However in today's consumer trends, you can order groceries from anywhere. Doesn't have to be Heinens just cause it's close. Definitely something to keep an eye on.

My opinion, a slight grade change of the bus only lanes would've got this concept off to a much better start. This way making the impression that a car can't go up on that section of road. Maybe only 6" higher, or lower than the parallel vehicle lane. Then coming to grade at intersections. Almost would give a similar effect that rail has, and make signalization easier to do. It may also create the impression that a car is sharing the road woth the BRT versus the opposite.

If Cleveland pedestrian activity was aligned more with something like Boston, or another more vibrant city, I could see myself using this. However, I envision this will be traversed by few therefore creating a rather "paranoid" feeling when being in the center of it. Maybe a poor choice of words, but you may get my point. Unless however Irishtown bend id developed, and delivers as expected, and spills over to this. Any event, the grant now will help aid in design development. Still a ways off until construction funding is procured.