Jenny

Have they issued RFPs for architects yet?

The hope is that Cleveland isn't just a place to get their footing in the US because it's cheap, rather a place where they find employment, and set roots.

Maybe Team NEO is in discussions with them and providing options of ready sites.

I'm not saying fornone minute that I'm in support of a Brookpark stadium. However we absolutely get a superbowl if theyre building a dome within a 2.3B development. The NFL supports all inverstments as such.

The tower needs a friend.

I'm not sure from a business logistics standpoint, a taller "skinny" tower with smaller floor plates would've been conducive to creating a collaborative environment for employees. The taller more slender towers are typically reserved for residential structures from what I've seen.

Who are the individuals that are part of the Cleveland Soccer Group?

It takes much more these days to support brick and mortar then it did 15 years ago. As I've said before, the number on critical mass is much greater than then the 20k we heard thrown around several years ago. Unless you already had momentum in a retail corridor pre-covid.

Didn't Medina win states a couple years ago also?

I wish the Cleveland Metroparks ran the City of Cleveland. Speechless. Cleveland is not playing in their league with this one, and I like it! 😉❤️

Impressive. The family that owns the parking lot actually wants to build something on it.

I read that also, however what I don't understand is why housing is so affordable and cheap in inner city Cleveland? In one breath they say we're severely under-built, yet the market doesn't seem very competitive. I could be wrong. Just an observation.

I like how this along with CCF Global Peak Performance Center will be viewed as coming north on 90.

That's a good view on it E Rocc! In the case of Cleveland, much of the development for the better part of the past 50 years has not developed around rail. In fact, many of the neighborhoods our rail system traverses has deteriorated over that time. Now, here we are in a post-pandemic commuting environment, or lack there of. The 80's and 90's, when commuting patterns between suburban locations and Cleveland employment centers was peaking was the time to establish strong, well thought out rail routes that got employee's from home to the office without having to fight what I would consider some moderate traffic, nor spend on gas and an additional car. Additional development would have occurred along those lines naturally as people continued to fill up downtown office building, and new offices in Independence and Beachwood (Just examples). Now with employees working from home more and more, I'm not certain where that route would exist. I commute daily when in town, and can say traffic is nothing what it was 5 years ago. On top of that, I'm one of very few on my street that even leaves the house in the morning. This is not to say that rail should be abandon, or that no one uses it. That's not the case at all. However the need from a practical standpoint, outside of trying to change peoples mindset, is not there. I work in Boston quite often, and use rail there daily. Traffic on 93 is terrible between my house and the city. Not a chance I would sit in it when I have the rail option. However in Cleveland, it literally takes me 30 minutes door-to-door to drive 20 miles. Trust me, I dream of having rail in Cleveland with development along all sides of it, however, I oftentimes think it's a tough sell given that commuting is a non-event for most.

That's the odd thing about rail in alot of neighborhoods in Cleveland. It's supposed to create dense neighborhoods. The rails not supposed to chase after them. That's just my opinion. I think the extreme lack of traffic amd the ease of parking around Cleveland is the largest opponent to new rail development around the city. We're left to pioneers that go car free for a cause, or small economic benefit, versus people who move nrar rail to save them hours of time on traffic and drop them off within steps of their office/favorite socializing locations.

Really great pics! Those almost make me wish the SW built in PHS to create balance. However we'd wait a very long time for the PS square lots to get built on. That said. All good!

Rite Aid is closing many of their stores across the US which they started doing this month. This location has nothing to do with a development.

Brookpark can only cater so much. They have very limited resources. Unless the pay surrounding suburbs to help. Im pretty certain Cleveland may snub them.

Looking up at a city (via flats view) versus down on a city (Innerbelt/Tremont view) gives a much bigger feel to a skyline. Whenever i drive through a city, and the highway grade sits lower then the CBD, the skyline is much more imposing on the landscape. IMO.

I can't understand how Brookpark can possibly service the stadium with Police and Fire and any other City services that go into supporting this. I thing that's the carrot that Cleveland is dangling, or not dangling. Essentially telling the Haslams, go ahead, try it. We'll sit back and watch. Good luck. Completely an anti-regionalism thought process, but I presume that's what they're doing. P.S. I haven't been following this conversation much, so you guys may have already covered this 🤐🤪

^Maybe it's for the Vibe development? The Cleveland Vibrator site?

I think it's safe to say Cleveland will land a Superbowl in the next 10 years.

I will say people will travel for games from afar if you create an experience around it. However could that have been done downtown, yes. However I really don't think the city is putting much effort into it. I presume they like the idea of opening up what is essentially Cleveland's only piece of large contiguous lakefront without several hurdles to jump through. This is an incredible opportunity that can yield much more than a sports venue. If we pass on opening up this large piece of lakefront property, we are essentially saying that we have zero confidence in private development from all angles. An opportunity that any redeveloping, progressive city dreams about. My opinion, this is a softball being tossed up for Cleveland'd continued renaissance. A "miss" on this, and baren lakefront land for years to come would be a huge failure.

A dome will definitely pull potential revenue out of Cleveland, and a large amount. If the plan for Brookpark is open air, why not, I wouldnt miss the stadium downtown. However if a dome is being planned, I think the City needs to do all they can to retain it in Cleveland.

Seaport I assume. Such an amazing makeover. One of the last parcels starts construction next month. Alot of this crazy fast development in Boston has been fueled by an incredibly strong biomedical industry.