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During their presentation, Columbus was listed as one of the 14 cities that gained more than 100,000 people. So, this seems wrong.

Ah. Damn, my mind skipped over the "metro-wise."

The 2010 census was 787,033 so the possible range is 865,736 - 943,652. But, they already said Columbus was one of the cities to grow by more than 100,000. So, the possible range is 887,033 - 943,652. Edit: The 10% - 19.9% was for metros, not cities.

The only in the Midwest and only one of 2 outside of the South/West along with New York.

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2021/news-conference-2020-census-redistricting-data.html According to that, it will be at 1pm.

Unfortunately, not all of us have permission to comment in the current events section of this forum. I just wanted to point that out so that you didn't think I intentionally ignored your new thread.

Not a single person here has given anything other than anecdotal experience to counter my points. "My gay cousin" and "I live here because.." are not legitimate counter arguments to decades of census data that I'm talking about(and haven't linked because I would imagine most here know where the major growth in this country has been, recently). If anybody can point to concrete data that shows that in order for a state to experience positive population and job growth, it HAS to be blue, I would love to see it. If not, your arguments aren't really relevant to actual debate. There is no evidence to suggest that Ohio will just magically experience mass population growth simply for switching to some democratic leaders.

So, it seems that you agree that we see higher levels of outmigration and you're just giving reasons that we see that outmigration. None of the reasons you gave have anything to do with state politics. So, it seems your comment just confirmed my original point, that state politics probably aren't the main factor in the majority of interstate moves, contrary to many opinions here. There are a lot of factors that play into decisions to move and state level politics seems to be low on the list for the vast majority. People are moving, not because they want to, but because they have to, so state politics is irrelevant. IF we want to make the assumption that state politics is the MAIN factor, as Pugu and others suggested, then, we bring ourselves back to the migration data showing outmigration from blue to red. That line of discussion brings us back to what you said, showing that people didn't really move for state politics, they moved because they had to. And around we go. I think the argument back and forth that people move to either color state is dumb. The average person doesn't really care and they just go to wherever has the best job/weather/cost of living for them.

This is the important part. The northeast continues to lose mass amounts of people. But, this is irrelevant to this discussion because we're talking about interstate migration. Most of those people are going from urban areas in one state to urban areas in another state, so, that is a wash. Pugu was making the claim that state politics prevent people from moving from one state to another, which isn't really supported by any data. I'm not even making the argument that people are seeking red states out. I'm saying that people don't really care about state politics all that much and probably do it for other factors. How many New Yorkers have looked past Texas state politics to move to areas like Austin?

What? Where? I'm discussing that census data has shown massive migration to many red states for decades. I'm talking about interstate migration. I'm not even talking about cities. Other people brought up cities. Pugu mentioned Austin and I replied, but almost immediately redacted my comment because that is irrelevant to my discussion on interstate migration. Let's make it clear that I'm not even making the argument that people seek out red states. I'm actually saying I don't think the vast majority of people care about state politics when they move from one state to another.

So, your entire argument is based on anecdotal experience and appeal to intuition. Got it.

Edit: I misread your comment.

Can you show me migration trend data that suggests that politics is a significant factor in interstate migration decisions? If so, can you then point to data that suggests that interstate migration patterns over the past several decades heavily favor moves from red states to blue states? Based on the migration trends we've seen, there are really two options: 1) Most don't really take politics into consideration when deciding to move and do it for other things like a job or climate.(This is the most likely option) 2) People DO care about politics, but actually prefer moving from blue states to red states. Most of the growth for decades has been to red states. Many of those states have trended blue, but were solidly red when massive growth first started occurring.

Whoa. That was quick. I swear I saw them open pretty recently, too.

Finally seeing some equipment on site for block G. And, they've now blocked off parking near the site.

Is this part of the sealing process? I remember there were a bunch of posts on social media where tons of water was coming through the roof on a really rainy day when people were touring the stadium. Luckily, it hasn't rained on any match days yet.

I think you're talking about the Andelyn Biosciences gene therapy production facility.

Don't forget about the amount of housing stock in the city that simply wasn't being used before but now is. There were tons of houses in areas like the near east side, Linden, and Franklinton that were boarded up but have since been rehabbed and now have people living in them. That being said, I think your choice is probably the correct option.

It's probably because this corridor includes Ohio State's new Innovation District and rapidly expanding medical campus, as well as OhioHealth's campus. It also goes south and connects to CoverMyMeds. It's also important to note that the Olentangy/Henderson/Bethel area has a lot of apartments where people commute to Ohio State from. More apartments will be coming to that area pending infrastructure improvements.

This area needs to get used to increased density, because it's coming whether they like it or not. The completion of the Innovation District, the Olentangy rapid transit corridor, and the continued buildout of Grandview Yard is going to drive rapid change in this area.

It's interesting how much that article talks about the East-West rapid transit corridor and work happening on it starting in 2022. I didn't think we were that close. Also, I thought the Northwest corridor was further along in the process, so work should be imminent on that corridor?

I didn't say they were.

Yes, I'm well aware. But, the players and team still play in that game. And, I'm sure they have personal preferences on where that game is played.

lol. Yes, I'm sure the team was clamoring to be in Cinci. Honestly, they probably wanted to be in Austin, which pains me to say as a Columbus fan.

It's interesting because this project didn't actually meet all zoning requirements and needed some variances. The one lawyer that was against was claiming that during the variance application process for this project, they somehow violated some Ohio Supreme Court decision. The lawyer for the project claimed that wasn't true, so who knows.