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Knez Homes and Ohio City Inc. partner to overcome hurdles and get things done. https://www.builderonline.com/land/development/knez-homes-and-ohio-city-partner-to-speed-infill-permitting-in-cleveland_o

There are also corporations and their suburban executives who may want to maintain a residence in the city for themselves and/or visitors.

The difference between visionary leadership and not... "The two cities (Dallas and Fort Worth) had little use for each other until Texas Instruments’ former leader and Dallas Mayor Erik Jonsson convinced them to go together to build a giant airport midway between the two cities, intended to replace the two older airports that each city maintained. DFW airport opened in 1973, and American Airlines moved their headquarters from New York City a few years later." The rest is history and a tale of two cities.... Unlike DFW, CMH and CVG, CLE is city owned and operated.

I think it is a reflection of and tribute to the Playhouse Square Association and their "get it done" mentality. They've proven time and time again that they will find a way to overcome the challenges and hurdles that are NEO. Knez Homes is another that continues to make progress on their plans to rebuild the city. They are in every corner/community. Other builders, developers and many of the civic organizations could learn from them.

There's this thing called Mass/Public Transit. Mark Muglich, former chairman of the National Parking Association, had an excellent response, "Parking lots are not designed to be forever. They’re part of the economic-development cycle. … Their purpose in life is to become something else.”

While pricey, for what it is, you would have to assume pricing would be top of market.

County continues to sink money into improving JC utility. https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2020/02/cuyahoga-county-signs-contract-for-central-booking-facility-the-wake-up-for-thursday-feb-27-2020.html

There are a lot of these in almost every suburban metro area. They primarily serve corporate locations, with hotels and restaurants, that cater to the business traveler. Sounds like Valor Acres may take the same path.

It's a very nice Concourse; the nicest of the four. Such a shame to have it shuttered.

Understood, but if any developer deserves to profit its Knez. They are developing properties everywhere and systematically changing the face of Cleveland.

As I read through this and the retail thread, there appears to be a consistent desire to see retail on Euclid, in Tower City, the Galleria and every mixed-use development.

Sorry Clefan98, sometimes reality/the truth hurts.

Yet, most of the people on this forum continue to clamor for downtown retail. Go figure?

Summertime please!

"We have to be more conscience of the liabilities we are taking on long term not just the immediate impact." As stated upthread, let's see if these politicians can come up with AND execute a better, more comprehensive, revenue & job producing development plan for this parcel, in the middle of the Shoreway and RR tracks; a decision approved by politicians many decades ago.

It's disgusting that these people being on the take can have such a negative impact on the city and those who could benefit from and are in need of jobs. And they wonder why there's a move to reduce the size of council and their salaries.

How bunker-like is Cleveland Clinic Laboratories, which also stores clinical and anatomic pathology specimens; some of which are hazardous?

...and the developer is investing $100M, without asking for major subsidies or handouts! One would think that with that kind of investment, in a city struggling with retail in its core, Horizon has done their market research and due diligence. City Council would instead prefer it remain an isolated, non-revenue producing parking lot. Unbelievable!

I don't see it as a bad design, it's just that most of the CCF buildings, as stated above, are very insular, with limited external, neighborhood-facing access points; everything is directed inward as though its turning a blind-eye to and insulating itself from the surrounding community. That's unfortunate because the SDOH impact the entire NEO region's mortality & morbidity.

So the top floor is intended to be used as offices?

What, the area around what was the East 9th Street pier? MOST of the lakefront has been, and continues to be undeveloped and as stated above, the Muni Lot isn't even on the lakefront.

These must be "affordable" residences. If that's the intent so be it. I just can't imagine rents for this building being market rate.

Agreed. The Shoreway and the railway tracks that aren't going anywhere, anytime soon. Part of the city council's rationale for why this project should not move forward is "for the future of lakefront development." I continue to be amazed at how the City leadership cannot get out of it's own way for the sake of progress. They'd prefer to leave the parcel as a parking lot in the "hope" that it will eventually be part of a bigger lakefront development.

The City has done little with the Cleveland lakefront since the Great Lakes Exposition in the 30's. Now the possibility of this development on the muni lot is a contentious "lakefront" project. https://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/2020/02/is-cleveland-owned-property-along-the-shoreway-a-good-site-for-an-outlet-mall-some-members-of-city-council-are-wary.html?utm_campaign=clevelanddotcom_sf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2yQ5Je2Y4-kHNGovzE5agH99eg_9TFHJ4yVMhwnAiqjlwPbvLKsyG_5AM

I can understand the desire to integrate a development into the surrounding neighborhood, but this is the least attractive design I've ever seen, especially for a new build.