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Burke isn't going anywhere for the foreseeable future. Based upon other airport closures, it can take more than 20 years for the FAA to agree to closure (Santa Monica Airport). As for the lakefront, I think the biggest obstacle are the RR tracks, which short of creating a tunnel or land bridge, pose the most significant obstacle to lakefront development.

While a huge fan of the building in general, as I had commented upthread, I'm not a big fan of the stripes on the two faces, which were apparently added after the initial design review. I'm still unsure as to why the change was made and why they only changed two of the four sides. Regardless, I would love to see more glass towers interspersed with the traditional gray, beige and brown brick and mortar buildings throughout the CBD.

Given the city's poverty rate, the location at a transit hub, the need for living-wage jobs and the need for job skill development and training, it seems like it could be a great location for local industries and companies to come together to develop a job development and job skill training center. Unfortunately, it's not neccessarily something that a private business would want to pursue, because it may not provide the ROI they seek. At the same time, I'm not sure local government would be effective at managing such an enterprise. It may require a community-based not-for-profit foundation to be an effective force.

Remember stripes are only on the south and east faces. The north and west faces are stripeless.

I think I'll reserve judgement until the project's completion. We had mentioned upthread that it even brings an old world European flavor to Euclid Avenue. It still has the potential to make a very strong statement along that portion of Euclid.

Do you mean vinyl; as in vinyl siding?

Upon reflection, it couldn't be more appropriate and symbolic than to have a Connecticut-based architectural firm lead the design of what may constitute the most important downtown Cleveland development in decades.

I love this SW "Building Our Future" video. https://www.sherwin-williams.com/buildingourfuture/

Wonderful birthday gift! Thanks Ken.

Happy Birthday to me! 9/25/56

It's good the PHSF has diversified their portfolio to include real estate. With the current state of the theater business (look at Broadway in NYC), that decision long ago, may have been their saving grace.

^ While certainly nice, the weather here in Miami is conducive to that kind of open-air structure at Brickell City Centre. Cleveland's winter is not as hospitable; the exceptions being Isaias and Sally-like Hurricanes and Tropical Storms here in Miami. I would also hope that a tunnel is constructed vs a bridge, along with W. 3rd Street crosswalks to provide both underground and street-level options. Increased street level foot traffic would be good for surrounding street level establishments, while a tunnel would eliminate yet another unsightly downtown bridge.

To put an end to the debate, below is part of the SW Press Release that appears to have been overlooked: "Sherwin-Williams will work proactively with the cities, community leaders and trade partners to positively impact the local economy by providing workforce opportunities for the community, including awarding contracts to minority-owned and female-owned businesses, as well as small businesses."

For a project of this scope, magnitude and significance, you certainly want world-class talent to produce a world-class product. I think those chosen will provide that level of expertise. I'm not sure of the local minority-owned talent, but I have to assume that there are plenty of subcontractor opportunities available for a variety of local minority-owned businesses. This may have all simply been a warning dog whistle, similar to the issues with RMFH.

I love the design of 10600 Chester - Another stunning reflective glass tower to compliment the Lumen.

^ Agreed. As stated upthread there needs to be significantly more affordable housing, but not segregated affordable housing - that's when demonization can occur. "Affordable" means below top-of-market. Not everyone can afford $1500-$2000/mo in rent. This can be achieved through mixed-income developments. They've successfully done it in other cities. It can be done in Cleveland.

^ Are there similar trails from Shaker Lakes and along Doan Brook?

^ Agreed. I have been a longtime advocate for more affordable housing. A few units here and there won't get the market to where it needs to be. This will be a significant addition. Affordable housing for the working class will only enable more services for those in the market-rate housing and will stimulate more growth and development. I do hope however, that the grandeur of the lobby can be restored, isolated and maintained for future generations to marvel and treasure.

^ Am I mistaken? Isn't 55 PS also being renovated?

The fantastic news is that all of the buildings in and around Public Square and the SW HQ, including this one and 55 PS (except maybe Metzenbaum CH) will be beautifully restored and in pristine condition in time for the SW ribbon-cutting ceremony.

Based upon the numbers, it would appear that the development is being driven by the bottom of the market, cost-conscious leisure/vacation travel and business segment of the market.

The reason for the demise of this project is so obvious it's laughable. States like California have used wind turbine technology in their mountains and deserts for over 40 years. As one of the most environmentally conscious-geographies on the entire planet, I find it hard to believe that they are less concerned about protecting bird/bat species and the environment than a former industrial, still wanna-be fossil-fuel producing state like Ohio. Sorry, we don't buy it. Let's give the citizens credit for some level of intelligence. If it were up to these politicians, who want to MAGA, the Cuyahoga River would still be catching fire, Lake Erie would be a dying lake and the streets of Cleveland would still be filled with choking particulate matter, sulfates, CO2 and acid rain; all as the obstructionists enrich their own financial standing and quality of life. Those days are long gone. Get over it! It's time for the residents of Ohio to replace these dated, out-of-touch politicians, who are so £ellbent on protecting and reliving an era that has long since passed and, while economically advantageous at the time, proved to be so detrimental to the health and wellbeing of humans and the planet. The focus should be on new, clean, innovative and renewable technologies of the future, not the perpetuation of old, non-renewable, environmentally unfriendly, self-destructive energies of the past.

Unfortunately everyone will still be talking about birds as long as the fossil fuel industry is lining the pockets of the politicians in Columbus. They've done the research and garnered most of the necessary regulatory approvals. It's not about migratory bird patterns. It's about a random group of obstructionists, who are in deep with the fossil fuel industry. Follow the money.

Unfortunately it's not just CLE. Last week I flew from MIA > ATL > MIA. The #1 and #10 airports in passenger traffic had more TSA agents than passengers. Most retailers were closed. I've never seen either airport so desolate. We have a long way to go to recovery.

I have to think that the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic has simply escalated FEB woes. Restaurants, bars and nightclubs that aren't generating revenue can't reliably pay their rent. Compound that with unemployed tenants who also have difficulty paying rent and soon the landlord is also in a pickle with their stakeholders.