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There's also a time component to relocating underground as well. Electric companies can be a huge drag in getting stuff moving, it's multiple months at a minimum to get the process going to bury lines.

I wouldn't get your hopes up for any sort of ground breaking until close to the end of the year. I don't think any of the buildings/site have been designed yet.

The City is going to be replacing the storm culvert along the parking lot edge before the building and garage go up. Could be equipment for that.

I'll bet my bottom dollar Bedrock/Rocket is who bought the land. Also, if my memory is correct, I don't believe the Herald building was part of the deal. Stark still owns that.

I would say the most likely reason this is being installed is to facilitate excavation for the foundation & utilities of the main tower.

I'd fully expect nuCLEus to be fully dead and the property sold in the next couple months. Who knows if that'll end up a bad or good thing.

Well that explains why those buildings are coming along so slowly, they only have 3 guys working on them!

That's pretty much correct. Building is using caissons for its foundation. Bedrock is in the 40ish feet deep range.

I do believe it's a requirement for my PE to continue to taking an Architects pretty picture and ruin it with a real world design. Us engineers love to turn fancy buildings into plain ole' rectangles.

I believe it's March 19th, 3rd Friday of the month.

Library Lofts should end up on the agenda for the meeting following the March 5th one.

I think the structure on the PS lot has been way blown out of proportion in the last 2 days of comments I skimmed. My take on this building is more of an event gathering space, which to me makes more sense where they located it. Think about it, the views on all sides of this building with the new headquarters are going to be fantastic. Especially compared to if they swapped the location with the HQ building. Just give it some time for more details to come out, there's a very real chance that smaller building could add way more presence and liveliness to the square than just the HQ building. It's separate from the HQ building, meaning there's a way larger chance of it being used for more open public events than anything located within the tower. Pretty cool to imagine a rooftop wedding cocktail hour in the summer there.

That site plan was old. Currently the apartments will take up that entire corner as well.

I'll build off my comment earlier about driving in circles, I think the best chance for added height is going to be incorporating a few floors of parking into the tower structure. While it'll be possible for a 12 story garage to be in play, it's typically a design no-no to go that high. Surface area saves $$ and opens up more avenues for traffic flow in and out.

If those parking garages end up close to that tall I feel bad for whoever has to park on the top. Talk about driving in circles.

It was started by some sort of explosion. We felt it all the way over by the middle school. Heard multiple people walking around this evening saying the same thing. Hopefully they weren’t working on a Sunday and the site was empty.

Don't get your hopes up. There's a reason 4 story stick frames on top of a concrete podium are so common now a days. The building code changes and makes buildings much more pricey once you go above that 4th floor.

I'll chime in one more possibly thing I haven't seen mentioned on the contamination and that is time. I'm not sure how much it impacts their decision, but sometimes cleanups can be very time consuming, and permitting on them can be a very lengthily process on its own depending on the severity (whether or not the City is involved doesn't always help speed anything up). If they want to build both campuses at the same time I could see the time factor on the cleanup being taken into consideration on choosing a different site.

I haven't been this distracted hitting F5 since the day the state started releasing the PE exam results. Killing the work productivity!

To add on to the reasoning for a survey, any sort of development site, big or small is going to need a survey for everyone to use as a baseline for design, and a project this big is going to need quite a detailed one. The elevations across the property are only a minor part of a survey. (And for what it's worth, an 8' difference in grade across the properties is no where near a flat site. What may seem flat to the common eye, can be an engineers grading nightmare.) The survey will most likely include all the underground utilities, which considering this is in the heart of downtown is going to be a huge amount and extremely time consuming to sort out, and any easements, rights-of-way, property boundaries on the existing parcels.

As someone who lives on the West side I would say this would give us an extra reason to spend a few days downtown every year. Another thing to remember, outlet malls a lot of times have stores that don't just pop up along streets in cities or towns. They seem to be "outlet" specific. I could be wrong, but I believe stores like Nike Outlet are completely separate and offer different product from say a Nike store that would open up as a stand alone downtown storefront. So I would lean towards saying an outlet mall here and a future retail frontage along Euclid aren't mutually exclusive.

Ohhh! I'll take this as an opportune time for my first post! Yes, any sort of development the engineer is going to need core samples. Civil's prefer them, Structural/Geo-technical need them.