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I hope that gorgeous building stays. They can build off the back but it will be another crime if the city demolishes it. It's unabashedly mid-century modern and deserves its place in the architectural preservation of the city.

1. Can we move this to the general downtown plan thread? 2. It's wonderful 3. Will this finally help spur an AD to Peninsula Pedestrian bridge 20+ years later? 😉

Yeah... but that staircase overwhelms the historic structure. Should be tabled... for consistency sake that is.

I think they ruin it from any angle. If we are forced to deal with the vertical stripes and zig zags, it just completely interrupts any hint of sleekness. I think the pallet strapping is a great comparative. Beyond that, it cheapens the design even further. Google maps captured it mid installation so you can see the direct comparison of it with and without and with seems so unnecessary from an aestetic perspective and from an engineering perspective, makes it seem like it's not designed well enough. Surely there's a reason for it but why. And if it's just design, it's another reason I question who made the decisions on this building. Virtually no design tie in to the existing James other than the 3 story brick platform that it's attached to. To match the gap between the 2 and then completely change design at the intersection with something that isn't complimentary or compatible. going the extra mile for a tan stone facade? Green windows versus blue? Who chooses green windows in THE 2020s? Even just changing the tan to gray and the leaving the windows to match would have made all the difference in the world. This building is my Rhodes Tower. To spend this much and not get the details right and have a building that immediately looks retroactively dated is silly. There are much better ways they could have made it distinctly different if they didn't want it to match the James while being compatible with it.

What a joke. What makes me really want to throw a brick is the comment on the stained glass. FFS. Stained glass is back-lit all the time when a wall or adjacent building is constructed, or, when installed in an internal chapel. Churches backlight their own windows all the time. Has this chucklehead ever been to a cathedral with internal windows? How dare the Catholic Church not convey the right spirituality and reverence, let alone a developer who bought the space for housing!

Surely these metal straps come off at some point, right? If not, I'll hate this even more.

If one prefers a more subtle nod, perhaps 'The Ashbury'

It's not history and carries little to no significance to the city itself on the prominent bridge. The same 2 Columbus Crest and Ship medallions are repeated at least 36 times. A total of 72. And insets of the Columbus city seal a handful of times with plenty more insets ready for additional markers. There's plenty of room for re-envisioned bridge details that includes things alot more relevant to this land locked city on non navigable waterways than ships that landed hundreds of miles to the east 500+ years ago 36 times and the crest of said explorer on arguably one of the most prominent places in the city. Relegating more relevant history to Columbus to less prominent areas seems silly. Preserving the medallions as is more silly as we look at how little Columbus actually relates to Columbus other than a decision to name the city after someone popular at the time.

It takes the right developer. There's a way where both the funeral home and developer could come out happy with some level of structured parking for the funeral home and residences above. And then you'd also have covered parking during services to protect vehicles and patrons in inclement weather. There's a way, but it has to be the right partnership. And this is the case with alot of properties. Partnerships are hard.

The city was also suppose to address the flag and seal following the big re-examination of Columbus push as well but haven't seen or heard anything about it since. The Broad Street seals are also all Columbus (the explorer) related and could be redone to include many different things more representative of the city, its people, and history.

I really don't like the 4th and 5th project. It's one of the most monolithic structures and they billed themselves on taking from surrounding historic architecture but it didn't turn out that way at all. It's a nearly 500ft street wall with no breaks except the curb cut and it sucks. Another case of developers not being pushed hard enough for thoughtful architecture. It's not the density, height or anything I have an issue with. It's just 500 ft of wall.

That's what I mean in terms of multiuse plaza of other materials. The 2.5 lane asphalt swath is unnecessary especially if the Symphony hall is successful. Something that will still allow necessary traffic only but not open for traffic. Just less... through street ish.

Hear me out... glass brutalism.

Maybe things will change in the next 5 years in terms of cost and availability, but I just looked and KCI (Again, the closest project to CMH) went with the metal tables and standard scanners on their new terminal that opened last year. Surely they had the same goals. Hopefully the time between will help. Seems silly to build such a beautiful space and just throw up metal tables and standard rollers.

A couple things I noticed The renderings include a very outdated security system. Hopefully it's just a rending issue and we get the upgraded checkpoints with automatic bin return etc. A cameo appearance by British Airways I question the stunning view of the airfield and skyline from the marketplace. There are gates in the way. I'd love a stunning view but I have a feeling it's going to be more occluded by passengers than they make it out to be. If we could get a dreamy space saucer lounge on top, that would be fun.

But it's a lazy reference too. They could have continued the bull nose to ground level and it probably would have help.

YOU LOVE IT. JUST SAY IT. 'I'M IN LOVE WITH THIS BUILDING. IT'S THE BEST BUILDING BUILT IN THE MIDWEST SINCE THE RHODES TOWER WAS COMPLETED' We know your true feelings. We can see right through this facade of hesitation. ;-)

Agreed. Which is why I'm reserving my frustration for 2025 🫠

I didn't catch the Dispatch article. That's kind of ridiculous if that's the case. I'll reserve going off on a tangent until we have more details in 2025 😅

I dont know that they are unwilling. It's still very early so I'm not criticizing them yet... just that they should be as details get worked out when compared to another major project they bent over backwards to make sure happens. A nudge as things get moving as it were.

I will say this, the city and county should step up. With giving $70+ million in support to North Market Tower, a couple million, or 'the city's donation will be the land lease value over the next 100 years that it isnt making' isn't going to cut it.

First mistake 😅

Someone on reddit is dumb

That's going to be Columbus's ongoing struggle. Legacy cities, on navigable waterways, have 100 years of industry, works progress projects, barons, etc head start. Endowments with 100 years of interest accrual etc. It's at no fault to legacy cities or newer cities. Just how industry and wealth developed over time. That doesn't mean the money isn't there. Just that we find ourselves going to the same fewer benefactors time and time again, doing things like building a symphony hall, that the barons of old built in the early half of the 1900s. I think this achievable. The money is there. No doubt about it. And this is potentially more attractive to donors than the Vets. And most of the same people above are underwriters already. Just a matter of wining and dining for the big checks this time. I think the scope and architecture will be a big draw too. People want their name associated with something like this. Symphony Donors https://columbussymphony.com/support/corporate-giving/corporate-and-foundation-partners-2022-2023/

There is. Keep in mind this is in partnership with CMHA and partially dependent on bonds. Plus we are at the mercy of time versus cost. We've waited long enough to see movement, so in this case, for the sake of continuity and further density, I'm ok with it. And as far as creativity, it's standard. But not the bad kind that Uncommon evokes. Not sure Casto is one to want to kick out. They still seem to maximize land use, prioritize retail and pedestrian experience, and are building in such a way to allow future builds. Casto isn't the juggernauts that Kaufmann, NRI, Edwards, are downtown but that's OK. I can't really say anything they've done is bad or a joke. We are still going to see smaller developments especially in the neighborhoods. I'm not sure any of them would be putting a 12 story here as well. It still appears to be a somewhat quality addition to the neighborhood. We are at the disadvantage of having seen a prior proposal but alot has happened since 2019