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They post them here. Columbus is not as regimented in posting them so we don't get as real time as some others. https://flycolumbus.com/flights/airline-stats

Agreed. As is, I Feel like the Krkger project is great but it doesn't quite earn truly transformational in the same way others would. Its more in line with general historic and standard development of industrial sites. If they had gone bigger, then yes.

Can you post a link? I wasn't able to find anything on them. Curious about what they are. Gather in Greenville SC is another great example of a really cool public space that would be of great scale for shipping container use but unfortunately, as Mikey's found out the hard way, our local laws on shipping container use actually inhibits functional uses of them that could add to this and other projects.

I mean...

Such a catch 22. In a sense, jobs and light industrial near the population is good but also, could have been an opportunity to move such a massive site outside the beltway to free up the land for better land use near downtown.

I just want to know timeline for public information. Blink once for soon. Blink twice for 6 months. Cough inconspicuously for maybe never

Jman? That you? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that a viable 24 story tower, what would be the 3rd tallest building built downtown in at least 10 years if not 20 is a pretty strong message. Again, be careful what you wish for because viability is a much stronger message than aspiration. We know they *wanted* to go bigger but are giving us what they know they can build. It's better to have steel in the sky than another millenial blunder. Lets not slow down the rest of development to spend 6 years getting financing. There is no miss here. Its only seen that way becUse they happened to put out conceptual plans. If we never saw those, we would be drooling over 24 stories. If anything, I think the case is stronger for building the ancillary buildings a few more floors.

It's not really a reduction In my mind. Previous conceptuals were aspirational and we knew that. And we see how hard it still is to make the Financials work for Merchant building and they have mutiple investors, state tax benefits, local tax benefits, and direct funding so I'd say 24 stories seems plenty satisfactory if it means it's likely to be built more quickly and with less chances of being delayed or canceled for Financials. I think it also opens the greater chances of another decent tower or two down the road instead of concentrated into a single tower.

I'm usually very skeptical about a TJ anywhere downtown based on their high income standards but they have exceptions. And of any projects we've seen, this could be that exception with the amount of momentum Peninsula and Franklinton have. Still not putting money on it but if it was going to be somewhere, I think this would be it.

No one has mentioned Trader Joe's yet?! Slackin' off, folks. ;-)

Is the timeline comparative to the new phase of peninsula? 2025ish?

This has been one of my top desires for that space. A new state of the art facility for the symphony and potentially the larger Broadway in Columbus shows. The Ohio is wonderful, but you can only do so much and some things warrant a state of the art facility built for modern performances. My other desire has also been a new art museum. (Not replacing the existing, but another one for modern art or something) Maybe it can be both!

I missed the ground lessee part earlier. Which brings up a thought. I wonder how many other parking lots are covered by such insane contracts.

I doubt it. They want to sell it when other developers get desperate enough to pay an inflated amount.

Evidence exists! But we won't show it to you. Just believe us that there is clear and convincing evidence!

Wow. They are now keeping 39% of the existing structure. That's stupid generous. I'm glad for the design update. I just wish the commission had just gone with being picky about design elements and leaving the density.

I mean, it's no Uncommon...

Like I said, suburbs gonna suburb. Doesn't have to make sense or be practical but there's a sense of entitlement that comes with being the fastest growing county with a healthy average household income and attention from some of the largest companies in the country. Doesn't have to make sense for people with sway to make a push. It can be as impractical as can be but doesn't mean there aren't people who aren't going to try. But now that we have that confirmation, perhaps DLZ/ Regional Airport Authority Proposal can have its own thread.

So I found some background information publicly available. Delaware County and City are looking to form a regional airport authority. And it seems some parties involved have larger (far-fetched) ambitions. So while the initial plan is to focus on the municipal airport, there are explorations of grander proportion. Again, a poaching exploration more than anything. I think that the reality will be a relocation of DLZ to better serve the business community aka Intel than bringing commercial air service to Delaware county. But some appear to want to at least be more than a general aviation airport.

Wonder if there's long term plans to move Lane? Seems like Lane, as it is now and in this rendering might impede further expansion west.

Suburbs gonna suburb. But I assure you, it's not unsubstantiated. Whether it makes sense or not doesn't mean that people won't try.

The rumor isn't necessarily that CMH is moving. It's that there are indeed entities spending time and money to create a comprehensive plan for CMH to move. There is truth to that. Whether or not CMH takes it seriously is the part I am skeptical on. Especially as @wpcc88points out, CMH is outlining all their funding and showing they seem to be full steam ahead. No reason for CMH to do that if they're entertaining other locations. But folks elsewhere are looking to lay the groundwork to make their pitch for a move in what I percieve to be a poaching expedition because they want it and feel they deserve it and can offer something that CMH wants. Just seems to be a bit late for that unless they are talking 30 years from now.

I dont necessarily either but it's out there. Place your bets now, folks. Lol

This seems more of powers that be trying to poach for status and tax dollars more than anything. It, to understanding is less about CMH seeking it, than folks trying to lure CMH away. It does not appear that CMH is seeking these. It seems very 'Look, Denver did it. So can we'. Now, if the effort was to combine LCK and CMH, I can see a justification for that and that was my first thought and question but it doesn't *seem* to be the case. As a Passenger airport, CMH doesn't lack for space or have major runway deficiencies. It is capabale of handling way more than it does in terms of runways volume and plane size. It's shortcomings are the terminal and passenger traffic. And the terminal will address it. And any influence of Intel wanting better international capabilities through gates and customs can also be addressed at the current location. And I can't imagine the convention center and city being ok with an airport 45 minutes away without guaranteed rail connection. IF you can sell combining CMH and LCK, with direct rail connection downtown AND Amtrak... maybe. But I also don't know that that's the vision. If it is, GREAT. But with the entities I know to be involved, I'm not confident that such a grand vision is in their cards. But yes. I agree. Could be one of those 'never built' grand plans but given who is involved, it's definitely going to have some weight to it for consideration.

This is all pending whether or not CMH moves. Apparently, there are multiple powers that be that have a serious behind the scenes process to move CMH out of the city. Down to land acquisition and environmental studies. Can't get in to much more detail than that but it might also explain why CMH has seemingly been slow rolling the process they were initially eager about. I imagine city leaders will fight tooth and nail but from what I've been gathering, it seems like said these other powers are putting up a behind the scenes fight for relocating the airport.