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What makes it a sure thing? The 614 articles seems like a paired down late print of the news from December. Even the quote is identical to the one from December. No new information has been published by Glytch or any other entity since. 614 never published the original story. Glytch didn't even have their own booth at CES this year. All they did was promote that another business was using their gaming station. Still on the skeptical side of this one.

100000% trying to reinvent the wheel for a rotating group of college and party kids, which is more or less the Corso bread and butter did more harm to Goody Boy than anything. I think Corso struggles with how much demand there is in this city for night clubs and that there isn't really enough population to support as many as they keep trying to open. Especially restaurant/night club concepts. Some sort of partial redevelopment could be really great but I think it would be a net loss for the Short North to redevelop the whole site. Perhaps Go different with an overall mid century build for some variety.

I actually think it does a good job of confirming what some have though here in that they decided to pick up on the modernist architecture that dominates that section of downtown. Just not sure that paying homage to the worst elements of 70s and 80s architecture is the right choice. Lol. I love how they use the PNC plaza atrium as reference when they were slated for demolition before the video was even produced. And the video gives some clear evidence their intent was to mirror the parking garage to the south. Kind of crazy to me they put that much thought into something so... this.

Not sure we ever shared it here but the developer put out a detailed video of the building some time ago.

She's gonna be real surprised if she ever walks up and down High Street some day. Let alone 5 years from now with the UD is approving 10 stories to King

Just wish we could get someone to follow through on the Union expansion and the Graystone lot to be developed and High/Hubbard would be a fully realized hub.

This project is great. I like it alot. I've always dreamed of a loft condo on the top floor of the original structure, actually. I'm referring to the one across the tracks adjacent to Audubon.

And then they recognize that it's been 10 years and the recommendations are already out of date and decide to restart the process. I'm also not sad to see the Whittier Peninsula project stall. I (not so) secretly want them to scrap it and sell it to another developer who will do better. I am a adamant believer that 'meh, good enough' is not remotely appropriate for that site.

In general, the comments are more fluff. Most of it has already been known. I Understand his connection to the project but he is barely an authority on alot of what he said beyond the actual construction of the facility. He basically pulled headlines and speculations from anywhere and everywhere. 'You'll be known as 'central ohio' and not 'columbus' now'.... ok, dude... tell that to Northeast Illinois And they probably ought to stay out of promoting rail unless they are going to pony up the money for dedicated passenger rail lines. I'll leave it at that. The rest can be hashed out in the rail threads lol

Speaking of, Mr Isozaki (COSI Architect) just died 2 weeks ago.

Correct. They're also not generally supposed to have structures on them either. IE: buckeye lake

Cook Out..... 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤 So many people just don't know what kind of southern heaven it is. Keep your Bojangles, bring me Cook Out.

I think this certainly an option for equitas linger term that we've discussed before. I believe though they will want more office and medical space out of a fuller development of their site. I imagine it's coming. But they have some pretty significant behind the scenes stuff to get in order that a place holder in the existing building is what makes sense for them while they strengthen the organization itself before further scaling up beyond their means.

Honestly, my guess is this fit within the developers feasibility plan. The lack of pushback seems that perhaps they went in with the go big proposal and walking away happy with what they got approved whereas the CVS property developer is still fighting to go big.

The towers and surrounding area really need the city and developers to come and and redo it all. In the interest of building up the whole area and potentially preserving the towers, the lower density around (along the highway) needs to be redeveloped. There needs to be a mixed income plan with a goal of no fewer lower income units than are currently present as well as bumping up the number of units significantly with varying increments to market rate. Subsidized commercial rent for essential retail, health services, etc. But that's all a bit utopian. My fear is that another slum lord buys it and we continue this cycle until the towers are irredeemable and sit vacant forever or get torn down. And that's alot of housing to lose. The opposite being that someone buys it and flips it to market rate or luxury and it's alot of affordable housing to lose.

I think the old Greyhound site might be on the more disappointing developments. Included in the now tabled levy was $145 mil for 2 transit oriented developments. One being the old Greyhound site. Without the levy or funds, it too may get tabled or come out wildly disappointing. Anything COTA related should be taken with a grain of salt or cautiously optimistic until they can get that levy approved. If anything, I'm mentally preparing for a long process not dissimilar to the merchant building filled with ups and downs and many changes.

Not really anything special, but CMH did an AMA on Instagram yesterday. The link provided went to the Dec 2022 Pamphlet with the generic stuff.

I wonder if the commission will take issue with the facade. It's rather unremarkable but it is unique in that there aren't any other tiles ones like that I can recall. They made a similar argument about the Stonewall facade. Yes it's plain, but it's not replicated elsewhere. It should be an easy fix and honestly I think that would look better than the jagged street front. I think that zigzag is the only thing I dont really like about it.

We don't see as many of them here, but it looks like plenty of stuff I've seen in the Carolinas. Similar builds are especially popular for condos targeting retirees. As far as timeless suburban architecture... this ain't it. Lol

Definitely not a roasters. The smallest roasters is 15k SF in Seattle. This space is about 6k. Which is 3+ times the average store size of 1500-2000 SF. They have these in between spaces that are specialty reserves with very unique local designs and aestetics. I would be highly disappointed if it's just a scaled up standard Starbucks and not something stand out.

That's going to be a starbucks?! I saw the work in there going on but never expected that. That's such a massive space. That's almost Reserve territory. It makes sense to have that massive study space on campus. Honestly good to see a likely stable tenant take up such a large space instead of the unstable rotation. I mean, I'd prefer a massive Roosevelt there but otherwise, Starbucks isn't terrible for that space.

That's on the larger end for starbucks. In a time when they are reducing seating on the inside of many locations. Between the madness that's already there and the madness that comes with a starbucks and chick-fil-a.... what an even bigger cluster that stretch will be

Now we delve into the 'Site Feedback/Input' side of things. Again, the Columbus forums are much more lax but 'and news' doesn't mean everything necessarily belongs here. Crime is news. Bike lanes are news. Highway projects are news. Employee expansion or contraction is news. Football games are news. Protests are news. But sometimes they get moved over to the other forums that better fit. Some times they don't. Your question is what is 'and news' for if we can't share news here when a better question is why have all the separate forums to categorize when anything can go here? If the issue is engagement or finding things, then maybe those misc forums with more relevant topic categories but lower engagement just get moved to the regional threads so you would see 'Columbus Restuarant' or 'John Glenn' updates etc pop up on the forum page we all go to most, but otherwise, they exist for a purpose. Now we leave the rest for the mods to rule on. Lol

Because restaurants moving in to existing builds is not development news. It's restaurant news. And there are separate forums for things like opening and closing of restaurants in established spaces so five guys was moved there. I'm VERY excited about this but it is more of a restaurant thread story.

Unless you're talking about someone way back, as of 2015, IRG was the developer of everything we see today and during the delay and the failure to pay contractors etc etc etc. The Canton Rep can be quoted as Stuart Lichter being involved as early as Day 3 with Baker and others suggest even earlier with Mayor Healy. Lichter paid for the feasibility study itself which was released in 2014 and what lead to the approval of the concept master plan in fall 2014. Unless I'm missing something, it seems pretty clear that Lichter and IRG are intwined from inception.