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I'm torn on the wave. I think it might create the effect of a glass tower from one angle and a windowless tower from another.

For me, it's about High and Arcadia doesn't need to be some entrance to campus or identifiable as such. Whatever the implications of parking and clientele and living among students and my neighbors here in Old North, I don't need it to scream OSU. I'd rather Old North just keep its own identity than developer feel a need to tie it completely to OSU. It's fluff language to sell the hotel to visitors more than anything knowing they are in a weird spot so overcompensating to try to sell a luxury hotel in that location to OSU visitors etc

I think the only thing I disagree with is the idea that Aradia and High is the place to say, 'Wow, this is where Ohio State Starts'. Lolol.

Annectodtally, I travel alot for work and subsequently do a fair bit of urban exploring and I will be honest and say that the homeless in Columbus are more, I'll say interactive, and occasionally aggressive than any other city I've spent time in. This is not to say I've ever been in fear or it detracts me from my favorite areas of Columbus but there is a signigicantly notable difference.

The depressing reality that indeed, the carbon copy of everything cool in the urban core has in fact pulled even the urban core residents to it for the convenience of things such as parking or less 'less desirable' interactions (not you saying that. Others I've heard saying how much better bridge park is because there's no homeless people). In the meantime, parking troubles in the Short North is so 2013 but we will hear about it forever. Bridge park is fine. There's definitely some missed opportunities, some more glaring than others, to make it better but for urbanizing a suburb, it's a pretty good example.

Joe Motil is a regressive progressive. He's so progressive, his ideas and policies end up having the ability to hold back Columbus. I think this will definitely be the test of whether Clintonville has moved past its reputation of commissioners of 10 years ago or if it is really just more of the same unfer different pretenses.

That's on Clintonville. Their reputation proceeds them and any serious high quality developer isn't going to put time and money into Clintonville knowing it won't get approved. The higher the quality, the more density required for ROI.

Denied in 3... 2... 1... 'Why not 3 stories?' 'You need to be considerate of the surrounding history and architecture... no, not the building across the street that are just as tall (with the hill)... no... NOT the previous project we mistakenly approved. No... we aren't saying it has to be brick... you need to make it blend in with the Realty Office and McDonalds, duhhhhhh.'

Means they missed one. Maybe skip the archeologists... and go with these guys...

From a few years back since we still arent getting much from reporters on any updates. Apparently finding remains near a sewer line in 2001 added 3 months to that project. Some remains are likely to be as little as 1 foot below the parking lot 😳 "We are standing on a former public cemetery," says Columbus’ director of development Steve Schoeny. "There may be remains that are dug up. There’s a procedure that we work through how to appropriately dispose of those remains." Those procedures are outlined in a letter from Ohio’s State Historic Preservation Office, which was sent to the developers. And while no formal agreement has been signed, the developers are obliged to follow them. Weller thinks the bodies should be gently reinterred. Excavating remains and cataloging the finds could cost anywhere from a $250,000 to $500,000, and would take about to two to three months. These are likely to be the shovels we see for awhile unless there's been some sort of agreement to handle things differently.

I hope it's a true noodle house with hand pulled noodles etc if they are branding as a noodle house.

The amenity deck is fascinating. I would love to see the north building done the same just as an extension of the plaza there. Looks like you can spot the Cafe patio as well in the bottom right of the last one. I'm hoping that at some point we get a new public restaurant with some great elevated views of the riverfront. M at Miranova was wonderful but inaccessible and separated. Even the rooftop bar on the Peninsula predominantly faces north and west so it doesn't offer the best views.

Does 94 units sound extremely high or is there information that many are to be micro units? I think the skyline quite mostly applies to the appearance along the river specifically in regard to Leveque. I doubt it's anything more than just a weird way of saying we don't want Marconi to change or anything to obscure the iconic tower. With his involvement in the restoration of Leveque, I can see a personal bias against building a tower that would block Leveque from the most iconic images of the city skyline, but even without personal bias, I think it's probably an OK stance to say that that little area should refrain from blocking it.

Price. Opportunity. And history. Landmarks doesn't solely work to preserve things that are unique or detailed. Sometimes they identify unremarkable buildings with other significance. In this case, it is an old building with a history of Hungarian business ownership lending to the history of Hungarian Village itself. Additionally, as a first time venture, the price and scope of the project was right. Landmarks has a limited budget so obtaining and restoring and RFPing other buildings that are either too expensive to start or too expensive to preserve is not in the Landmark's purview yet. Landmarks does devote alot of time and energy working to preserve much of the city's historical buildings but this is the first hand on experiment they are trying. It's OK to start small and use a building with less character.

I bet sheetz would make a killing adopting an urban UDF-like model on High or Lane. Offering much of the same as UDF with a much bigger food menu. 🤔

CU isn't really the place for much related to devopment anymore tbh. NorthShore and CbusorBust have been doing an amazing job keeping up on documenting project progress throughout the city including Franklinton. They run circles around construction updates from CU puts out. CU will put out a quarterly, at best, construction update using photos that are already weeks and months out of date. Unless you're a nerd like most of us, im sure the general population doesnt know the difference. Lol. Most of the time, the commentary here is also weeks ahead of CU. CU pushes out a bare minimum of stuff these days. We get more food reviews by the esteeeeeemed MBA than development news each week. A good starting point for some recent Franklinton Progress.

Things take time, absolutely. But there's a difference in things taking time and certain business decisions hampering progress. Let NRI focus on actually finishing the AD and GY, and maybe Marconi. We can't fault NRI for having the capital to buy up prime real estate land and sit on it before others but we can fault Schottenstein... because others have been able to build around there proves NRI isn't impeding anything but Schottenstein and parking companies are... make it make sense. Either you're sitting on land too long doing nothing with it or not. Clearly my expectation is 5 years is too long for prime real estate but you'll draw the line at closer to 20 years. For me, there's no exceptions for NRI because others have managed to build or because they have other projects or that they have done so much already for the AD and GY. For you, you generally come to defend the businesses, even if there is a cost to the community or progress. As of now, it's going on 8 years since NW acquired Byers and 7 for Marconi. So we say sitting on land 10+ years is ok, because it's NRI. While other developers are devoping any land they can get their hands on relatively quickly. If NRI can sell more properties under pressure from city ordinances and taxes for stagnant land, we would likely have had proposals started and moving forward by now. They did it with Kaufman and we've seen the benefits. But they still hold a SIGNIFICANT portion of East Franklinton. NRI owns 70% or more of the vacant land in East Franklinton. Again, other developers ARE building... NRI is not and NRI is responsible for much of the vast open spaces. NRI still has land to utilitize in Grandview Yard and Arena District but you're confident that Marconi, Spring, and Franklinton are surely next up, right? Do we think they will move with the same haste others are or continue on the slow and conservative pace they are known for? I would certainly guess that they'll prioritize Franklinton based on how hot that area is, but then how long do we say it's OK Marconi and Spring sit because, 'they're focused on Franklinton right now, they'll get to it.' DeHays is not the first developer to comment on how hard it is to acquire land so there is clearly demand that would likely allow more development. I would rather see more simultaneous projects across a larger variety of developers than this incessant cascade of 'well, once this project wraps up, then they can focus on the next' among a handful of developers etc and have more significant infill before we are too old to enjoy it anyway. Much like any semblance of a proper urban transit and bike system, with each passing year of 'it just takes time' we come to realize that we will be lucky if our grandchildren get to reap the benefits in their own prime. For reference, NRI has owned more land in Franklinton than Kaufman, much of it for a longer amount of time. Kaufman is keeping pace in Gravity alone in terms of units and holding its own for commercial space. In a period of roughly 8 years (2016-2024), Kaufmann will bring nearly 1100 units online for Gravity 1.0-3.0, and IBEW. Unless NRI changes much, I don't think they come close in terms of units for the same time period, and certainly not density and walkability. A true sense of that term. If NRI doesn't move on it soon, it's time to stop giving them the benefit of the doubt. If they announce anything in the next 6 months, this is moot. If they dont at least have proposals in the pipeline, they are sitting in the way of progress and it's time to stop being dismissive of them under 'they're working on a parking garage so surely it makes sense they would have to wait to start an approval process for some of these other high profile sites.' You're talking about letting NRI have another 10+ years as they continue to cascade potentially leaving this nice hole in Franklinton While still likely leaving holes in GY and AD.. This is what NRI still owns in Franklinton. If they didn't own this much property, in the core of this neighborhood, perhaps it wouldn't be such a big deal. But unless they are going to get moving and keep pace with Gravity, the Peninsula, River & Rich, etc, they are absolutely standing in the way if others can.

As a permanent, non student, university district resident, the businesses could stay or go but development should be encouraged to further increase density, period. There is an argument for a level of architectural preservation that should be maintained there but I'm really not going to lament the loss of college haunts for things that objectively make the area a better place to live at the sacrifice of dive bars etc. In a perfect world, 10-15+ stories replace the BW3s and CVS stepped down to new build above old architecture going north to meet the largely original are North of Lane

It's 100% accurate. It's nice to want out of town developers but if, let's use Schottenstien as an example, isn't willing to give up the lots they have owned for Millenial Tower since 1985/1989, then the point is moot. Parking lots that earn insane passive income for families that have owned them since the 70s and 80s etc and long paid them off and pay minimal taxes and so on. NRI also owns a bunch of land with no plans in Franklinton. So yes, we might thank them for the AD, we should also be critical of their actions in Franklinton, the old Marconi Garage, Parking lots on Spring St etc. And recognize that yes, they might in fact be impeding progress that other developers might have moved on. But thats where the city is going to have to figure out how to get land owners to give up these properties by making it less desirable to let them sit empty and/or incentivizing selling them, NRI included.

Columbus usually isn't short on ideas. To keep it short, Columbus has come up with great ideas for many many years. Sometimes no brainers while paying consultants millions. Columbus lacks the ability to implement and see them through.

I know no one expected anything more than a single story commercial space but I am a little surprised that the new owner of the two homes on High just nort of North Broadway is fixing them up and not tearing them down. They have rebuilt and extended the eaves. We say it alot but I will never understand why Clintonville never adopted to turn the NB/High intersection into a town center.

If only I had this view earlier today.

Ok, Veruca ;-) (But also, #same)

Whether a lift crane is present. ;-) Jk. I believe it was just timing.

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