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This discussion was previously hashed out in another thread. No need to bring it back up here. This proposal is still among the best 'non copy and paste' we've seen in a while. The commission has ways of approving and guiding material that other commissions did not fully take advantage of. I think the city in general is going to learn the hard way the aestetic cost of allowing developers to use cheap panels. I don't believe that designs that other commissions reviewed and approved should be used against a clearly different project with a different feel if the commission still has ultimate say on materials. Hopefully the updated version is more in line with previous iterations. Kaufman is still taking alot of chances other developers have not yet done and helping bring the overall density of our core to much more appropriate levels.

The completed one behind axis. Not the one over axis. I havent heard anything about the axis project since the announcement.

It amazes me that after the Joseph, the project behind axis (the name escapes me), the grandview Mercantile site, and White Castle, that this project garners so much resistance, particularly how much attention to detail and uniqueness Kaufman offered for it compared to the other projects approved.

Wasn't 100% sure where to put it but 2 shootings and stabbings in the Short North Assiciated with Monarch Lounge this week and the City is hauling the owner in to review. The fascinating part is the owner is legitimately blaming street food vendors for being allowed to operate as the reason for recent violence. I've been in Columbus for 10 years and street food vendors have been a part of the Short North nightlife with little to know issue to my knowledge. Your establishment comes in and issues are clustered and associated with your establishment and the blame goes somewhere else? What a cheap cop out. https://614now.com/2020/news/monarch-lounge-owner-breaks-silence-on-recent-short-north-shootings https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/man-shot-in-the-short-north-early-monday-near-location-of-shooting-last-week

I keep forgetting to get a picture when I pass by but this cluster of building is getting quite a facelift. This streetview shows the start of it with the little shack. Just north of High Street Dental. I think there was an old lock service and/or made service out of the building? Looks like it's an elford project. Any other insights? Or someone that lives nearby able to get a better pic or two? It may be a couple weeks before I'm back in that area.

Huh. Who would have thought that years of resistance to allowing new commercial space would make it near impossible for a community institution to relocate within the same community due to so little options available. There was always the boarded up Burger King? /s

This is by far one of my favorite projects in the city right now. I need to remember to grab a pic next time I'm there but there was a comment regarding the way is cantilevers over the northern most building and it is quite fascinating they seem to keep large sections of the interior of that building. I was never in it so I don't know if it was to preserve something unique.

I wonder if that lot goes before the downtown commission? If so, it might be worth a bit of an opposition campaign. At least to push them toward a landscaped lot or reconfigure a pocket park along mound. As the main entry to the campus for many people, it seems like a perfect place for a pocket park with signage, etc to hide the llot. The Justice Park on broad would be a decent inspiration. You could even keep the park and use it for an entrance into a future government building on the lot some day. I agree it has appeared as a vacant lot for a long time. It, to me, isnt so much about lamenting the loss of an underutilized green space, just that it's going to be a freaking surface lot. It seems that in the 2012ish area the county branded it as franklin commons for events and a community garden. More like a hobby project as a way to maintain a vacant lot IMO and never actually reaching any true potential (likely for a reason).

That's alot of benefit of the doubt. I can sell them a gravel lot for staging for half that. Save the county money, make a bunch of money. Win win for me ?

That's infuriating. And chances are there won't be any attempt to make it a [forgive me] 'decent looking' parking lot with trees and islands and streetscaping etc. I wish the city could deny this from happening.

This season on Tanked! We think outside the box and build a full scale scuba experience in Ohio!

They'll probably have some vehicles. I grew up near a family that had part of an old quarry on their property and they sunk a bus, small plane, and a few cars for scuba diving. He can probably afford to bring in a big salvage or something.

Pulled these from the architectural plans in the link. It's relatively 'meh' IMO. There are no other renderings of the park as a whole. Just B/W schematics.

There's an interesting tidbit I'd like to see addressed a bit better by some media outlet or another. So, if the idea was not to renew Taste of Belgium to allow fresh concepts to be incubated, how does blocks bagels fit in? Further, sort of when Pistachio Vera and Katzingers came in, why is the North Market allowing established local vendors to start new in the market? It's one thing if that's just the ok practice and they state that, but the mission of being an incubator and welcoming in established businesses seems to defy that mission.

And this would be much closer to the core than whitewater center. My impression there was that it was more of the suburban folks than a city asset.

Correct. Lol

Interesting. I do know for a fact that the Linden studies are completed as assignments by students from professors. I'll be curious to see how they approach Easton then if it's the professors.

Aka paying less than market rate by selling students on the idea of gaining experience for little to no credit and less pay than market demands if they get paid at all. OSU is also actively involved in Nationwide Children's Healthy Neighborhoods revitalization using student labor for massive data collection on each property. I get it, and I see the benefits for resumes but at the same time, I wish these companies would offer more than 'experience' or substandard pay to the students in the same way people pitch 'exposure' as a form of payment to artists. It could also be noted that this is the same idea that Raleigh is attempting in research and business parks. They've discovered this needs for urbanization and are trying to adapt decades of business park models and sees of parking lots to a new urban model to keep tenants. Preferable with cohesion and a neighborhood feel. This new subsection of urbanization is likely to spread as many business parks will die or adapt to the new market demands.

It's the cheap metal panels that really kill it for me on any project, really. And unfortunately, that's not unique to any particular city or developer. I hate goodale but I love 80 on the commons. 250 its unremarkable to me but I guess those metal panels have that influence on its final appearance. That's a very valid conversation to have, it's just not the interpretation I had of the direction of the discussion which seemed to be hyper-focused on the balconies for a moment.

I'm gonna be a bit contrarian here and say that the exposed wooden structure doesn't bother me, particularly enough to argue Kaufman doesn't consider details or shouldn't build in an established neighborhood when many of their buildings do turn out well (goodale a major exception). I don't recall seeing them exposed in this way for the IBEW renderings. There were plenty of other details in that proposal though that I wouldn't accuse them of not paying attention to detail IMO. I would also posit there may be a reason for the exposure related to safety. Covered wooden structure on a cantilevered deck can lead to hidden safety issues related to deterioration. I wonder if there is any code that pertains to this as well. Other examples of the same issue include Taylor House, river and rich, out of town in Franklinton and All the cantilevered wood structure balconies on the new builds around campus are exposed as well. The balconies at Jeffrey park are all built out with steel structures directly supported from the ground up and are covered. Then again, I'm not sure these townhomes fall under the same issue. 80 on the commons are concrete extensions of the floor and are covered. That being said, there are PLENTY of solutions to address that but they come at a cost. Steel deck framing, which we probably wouldn't complain about etc etc.

An interesting move, as Hagerty is the specialty/historical vehicle partner for Nationwide Insurance since 2013ish I believe. With Nationwide's continued evolution into a more streamlined company and consolidation and focus on commercial and specialty products, I wonder what influence they had in bringing them to town.

I'm glad there was some additional density added and particularly condos but I'm not necessarily sold on the aestetic changes either. They seem a bit forced. I'm glad for the overall project but after the design precedent they set with Gravity 1.0, I still want something more out of the 2.0 part design-wise. Notice that they added color but they took away some of the angles in the windows from the previous iteration that added a bit of diversity other than a copy and past building with a painted exterior. And bringing that lighting feature from 1.0 across the street would even help. Would be interesting see that design element carry across the entire gravity campus, especially if it grows to a 3.0.

Money is on Root selling in under 5 years. The technology is great. Unfortunately, it's not transferring to a profitable model for them. They've not turned a profit, as they grow, they reduce soft benefits, some markets have seen more than doubling of rates making them more expensive than standard insurance companies. The selling point of only being charged fair rates because of your usage and not insuring anyone with any sort of adverse risk is only getting them so far. The laws of insurance are winning out. In 2017 they met loss 15.6 million. In 2019 they met loss 58.6 million. The 2019 numbers are not out yet publicly. Meanwhile, major competitors are buying up and investing in the same technology and when one can get the same type of rate and claims service through a well known brand like geico at a lower rate, the selling point of Root becomes less attractive. State Farm, Geico, Progressive, and even Nationwide will all offer the same product for less within a few short years. They will continue to be wildly successful and expand and rake in fundraising dollars but I see them going the way of Cover My Meds and being absorbed by a larger brand before long. Chances are, it would be a brand that doesn't have the ability to build the tech from the ground up that major companies have. Perhaps a Motorists or Encova etc. The question will be whether they maintain an aspect of autonomy like Cover My Meds or be fully absorbed in an acquisition. But after all, that is the nature of startups, mergers, and acquisitions.

We got our so you can't have yours. Screw them all. I'm hopeful but I would probably still bet money on a rejection and watch the developer pull put. I honestly dont think the uncommon pt II was a serious proposal but a scare tactic. If they do follow through with the Uncommon pt II version the community will get exactly what it deserves to the detriment of the neighborhood. What's particularly funny about the shadow casting argument is the biggest area affected by the new shadow will be the rest of the same building, a couple properties behind and the freaking Kroger. Will somebody please consider the effect on Kroger after 3.30 pm in the summer?! What will they do with less sun?! Nooooooo

What's a bit fascinating to me is the attempt at saving the facade with an all new structure on the interior? That would explain an earlier comment about all the interior historical integrity being stripped as well. What an absolute shame.