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Move the greyhound/intercity bus hub there as well... Or even just move the greyhound station there and DREAM of an amtrak down the road lol. Edit: Amtrak+Greyhound+Park Yay SimUrbanOhio!

Agreed! I am patiently awaiting a suburban high rise. (20+ stories). Each time I pass this area i think another mid to high rise would be perfect. I also keep wondering if we will eventually see a 20 story +/- building as part of bridge park. We * could * see the complete reinvention of ORR from downtown to at least NB. The potential is significant WITHOUT the unnecessary squabbling of NIMBYs to have a vibrant corridor of mid-high rise development and proper mass transit if we can get the right people on board to completely bulldoze and infill the outdated suburban model centers and parking lots all along the corridor. I'm not confident in our leaders and whether they have the vision and ambition to make it so. As part of the corridor study, I hope they can convince a developer or two to commit to additional catalyst project. I personally would love to see the corridor study combine with a reinvention of Lennox and the shopping center across the street and a further infill of the old Kroger Plaza or the Kohls plaza. I think having multiple commitments up ORR will help bolster the mass transit.

The major issue was they put out a proposal for land they didn't own and I'm not sure the rail lines or Savko will ever give up the land. It was a developer basically playing Sim City. Edit: They said they were 'in talks' but I'm still not entirely sure it was ever a serious thing. ESPECIALLY when schottenstein said 'oh. We decided to give the land up for the Crew'.... again, land they don't own.... o_O

Bridge Park was stealing back the suburban women and Short North has decided to fight back and give them a reason to keep 'em coming 'downtown'. Wait for it.... in 2 months a new location will be announced in.... BRIDGE PARK! The first Pinot Location in central ohio opens in Powell in December. All jesting aside, I am kind of glad to see an art focused business go in. May not be my idea of a fun time but it is another element of the arts for the arts district.

I dont mind the billboards giving the location but I'd like to see a more creative cover than a literal billboard over a garage.

I guess there are more than I realized when we start to name them. one could also partially include Pavey and i believe some of the other new building across from campus. Interesting then that a majority of the new below grade garages are in the University District where as the Short North did not experience this. I wonder what drove such different approaches.

I don't like the uncommon building but I think it's mainly the HUGE setbacks after 1 story. That's also a reason I believe the Nicholas has been offputting to me (well, one of several). I also despise the cinder block look of the ground level of uncommon. What a failure in terms of architectural materials approval. I don't mind it 'matching' either. In fact, it seems to be the better version of Uncommon. It seems they are aiming to use gray brick for the shorter details similar to the Moxy/Joseph etc which is far better than cinderblocks at one story with gray panels immediate above. Perhaps a more differentiated corner detail/feature similar to white castle or the (insert the name of the building on corner of lane and high) could be negotiated. 2 levels parking underground for such a large building is also pretty significant. We haven't seen a ton of that which shows how much they want to maximize within the given height limitations. It is a loss in density with a pretty large reduction in units. This is such a mixed bag overall. I would have much preferred ingenuity combined with some preservation but I don't hate all aspects of this. Edit: I will also say that given this plan, it really does seem hard to understand how they couldn't incorporate the streetfront facades. I'm not entirely buying that a superficial level of preservation is somehow cost prohibitive. Also given the other renderings vs these, I wonder if there was truly a seriousness to attempt the prior level of preservation and density. ?

*maybe* I'm not convinced. With such drastic reductions from the original commitments, I think the mixed use portion is going to be pretty underwhelming.

I think I would have preferred identifying broad street as the starting point for high capacity to spur more east/west development but I understand why this one was chosen. I *hope* but am not confident that this will lead to a complete redo of the vast parking lots and suburban strip malls along this corridor. It would be nice if, in coordination of a final plan, they could get some developer commitments to add density during the implementation of high capacity transit. Do I think light rail will be proposed. No. But I'd be happy as hell for a PROPER BRT and not another CMAX.

I'll be curious to see the final product and revisions. They weren't able to keep their original vision of the Market because it didn't meet modern food standard code. However, to what extent changes had to be made, I'm not sure. If they had to update it like Charlotte's, it will be relatively meh. The original North Market is grandfathered into certain codes so they can have the open aesthetic with open food prep and ceilings etc. In Charlotte, and potentially Dublin, they had to have a separated food prep area much like food courts where the only think you see is the counter. I just hope the ceilings are higher than Charlotte's market. We shall see.

I saw the giant pile of dirt (I didnt get to snap a pic). The way they are demolishing is it unlike any method over seen before and couldn't find anything online on the method either. It's been underway for about a month now with the giant mound adjacent to the building so Bobcats can get in and out of the various floors.

This is a model (in terms of use. Design is debatable) for every parking deck in the city. No more stand alone decks should be permitted.

As an aside, I hate those parking lots. I understand them but I wish they would at least go subterranean for them. Such a bad aesthetic for revitalizing Livingston.

I'd have to see a detailed side by side (which would have been helpful to include in the article rather than the original watercolor rendering) but I'm not sure the difference is worth getting upset over. The previous material change moreso perhaps but Arched vs right angle etc, maybe not so much. Ultimately it seems the city is at fault but the developer is taking the heat for it. Glad to see some great investigative and breaking reporting from CU on something that wasn't already printed days earlier somewhere else (to my knowledge) way to go guys! ?

There were scissor lifts in front of the Brunner today but I was not able to confirm whether or not they are finally putting the cornice pieces on by the time we passed by. Can anyone verify? Lol

I believe they are referring to the old 'awning' of sorts that went around the building before.

Ugh. That's a disappointment. :-/

Has anyone found any more Insight into this application? I hope it is window replacement. Swapping out the windows for a non-brown appearance would do wonders for the building.

CU has been getting progressively worse over the last year. Not sure what has been the issue but it is becoming less relevant for development news. Perhaps that's the direction they want to go? I ended up subscribing to biz-first now that is seems CU cant keep up anymore.

100% agree. This site had so much potential to follow the North Market AC Hotel model to be amazing and that's been lost. I think this may also be because it's an out of town developer. As we get more outside investment, are they going to be less likely to put up with commissions in the same way that many local developers have in the evolution of the Short North, VV, and IV? I Love that we are getting outside investment but the commissions are going to have to learn quickly that not every developer is going to be as forgiving as woods, kaufman, puzutti, etc.. Outside developers will be more likely to drive what they fear most: indiscriminate bulldozing. I will say I was a bit surprised that there seems to be no recourse in terms of appropriateness of demolition for these buildings.

Unfortunate news regarding the King and High development. This seems to be a lose-lose situation for both preservationists and urbanist. The developer seems to want to cut losses and just get lazy. And while I'm not a pitchfork and torches type of person, I do see THIS as an unfortunate precedent if it succeeds. This isn't a stand alone, beyond repair, set of buildings. I'm ok with the occasional demolition but this is less than ideal, especially to replace it with a building that us going to be under 72 ft.

An interesting plot twist to add to the disgruntlement of more citizens. It seems the Ginther administration had more to hide than just 'infrastructure' spending. I'm curious how this will affect city council elections with this news being tailwinds behind the Yes We Can candidates. I'm not exactly happy about it either. Especially as so much of this was back door wheeling and dealing that the city seems to have wanted to keep under wraps as long as possible. It also makes me even more curious about what kind of contract NRI and the Crew ended up with. This is the gem though. [Summarized] 'We removed the requirement and made it a suggestion and we fully expect them to maintain the limits we want imposed without having any way to enforce it anymore.' And the dispatch seems to have uncovered documents that show that Ginther's talking point about the city money jumping to over $100mil is a lie and that it wasnt originally planned that way but was done under pressure from the Crew and Haslam group. What I had hoped wasn't your typical stadium owners bullying cities seems to have been a bit too good to be true. IMO: Is it the worst deal in the world, no. Is the stadium worth it. Probably. Was the public mislead. Absolutely. I'm sure there will be plenty of people that shrug it off for the sake of saving the Crew but even beyond a stadium deal, it's bad urbanism to let developers to get away with such drastic reductions in mixed use promises. It appears the vibrant stadium village is going to be this much less vibrant. https://www.dispatch.com/news/20191031/strict-affordable-housing-requirements-dropped-from-crew-stadium-district-project Edit. I forgot to put in the total number of housing unit change. ORIGINAL: 885 FINAL: 440

I agree on the zoo. I didn't hate it but I thought it was a mediocre attempt. It would fall into the category of a decent local/regional attraction. And if we try an aquarium, it needs to be a major aquarium, not local/regional IMO To be honest, I believe as stunning as the Vets Museum is, the experience on the inside needs a bit of work. I applaud the concept, I just wanted to get more out of it. I have long felt that there should be an attempt to bring Motts downtown as an extension of the Vets Museum. A secondary museum where the parking lots are was my 'sim city' vision. As far as the movers and shakers, it's hard to say. I'm not sure what Wexner has left or has up his sleeve. They are one of the foremost collectors of Picassos and I'm assuming a significant collection of other art. I would not be surprised to see it donated and a facility for it. The question will be whether the facility will be in New Albany (founding a New Albany Art Museum), a wing at Columbus Museum of Art, New Build as part of the OSU 'Arts District', or the Peninsula or something else along the lines of Pizutti collection. Given its location and importance, I feel like it would be an easy sell for donors and corporations to come together for something amazing. The trouble will be deciding what will bring them all together. The people and foundations that would donate for an arts facility may not entirely overlap with those for an aquarium etc. Edit: another thing I'd like to see come back is elements of the old proposals for the Franklinton Gateway sculptures. https://www.columbusunderground.com/new-gateway-concepts-shared-for-town-and-rich-streets-in-franklinton-bw1 As an aside, the Pulse Foundation announced the winner of their museum design and I thought how amazing something similar would be in that location to play off the shape of the Vets. I think anything that goes in that spot should be just as iconic. Bonus points for some height. For some additional context, the Pulse Memorial and Museum is projected to cost $45 million. The new Vets was $80 million if I remember correctly.

In terms of Souder, that's been a fun thought experiment for me lately as well. I'm not sure its thought of as a gateway or corridor (yet) as much as it could be but I hope that the city, developers, and commission come together with a vision of how to make those several blocks into a proper gateway. As for gravity. I've been spending a fair amount of time there and as much as I love it, I can't help but go back to a big complaint of mine on stand alone garages. Even if they had put a green roof or solar panels on it (although preferably a couple floors of additional units would have been preferred), the garage remains a massive part of the project and seems underutilized when looking at the project as a whole. It's a minor, yet major detail that I think could have pushed it over the finish line into territory that's relatively unheard of in many places. In addition to the areas mapped out above, NRIs area is outlined here. Hopefully the feel the pressure soon to sell more land or finally develop it. (Note, this is a bit dated as NRI sold a plot For Gravity 2.0) edit: And some of the plots that are surrounded by NRI have since been acquired giving them all but a couple tiny plots in that massive block.

Perhaps it will be influenced by the TMUD passage as well. If they want to try and get that credit, they need no less than a 15 story component.