necromantical

elevators?

and these...

photos of the updated model and according to the Louisville folks at ssc, Museum Plaza is a done deal.

wow, its moving along quickly

i dont like the trees either. New plans for Museum Plaza to be unveiled Monday Forum to offer details of expansive project By Marcus Green The Courier-Journal A glassblowing studio. An elevated three-acre park. A 246-room Westin hotel. Three towers rising 62 stories above Louisville. The latest plans for Museum Plaza, the massive complex planned for Seventh Street and River Road, will be unveiled by developers tomorrow during a forum at the Kentucky Center. More than 400 people are expected to attend the update on the $465 million, 62-story project that will include a museum, a hotel, condominiums and office space, said Bob Gunnell, a Museum Plaza spokesman. The update "will be our largest ever we've had for one of these," he said. Scheduled to speak are architects Joshua Prince-Ramus and Erez Ella of REX Architectural Partners; Chris Dercon, the director of museum development; and Adriaan Gueze, a principal with landscape architect West 8, a Dutch firm. More at http://www.courier-journal.com

the trees are in the park

new renderings

Rem Koolhaas has nothing to do with MP

Rem Koolhaas didnt design MP though.

what the hell/>?

Council panel OKs Museum Plaza tax district A Louisville Metro Council Committee yesterday gave its unanimous approval to create a tax-increment financing district on four acres around the proposed Museum Plaza that will use a portion of income tax revenue to pay for the project. An ordinance approving the tax district will go before the full council Tuesday. Museum Plaza is the $465 million, 62-story skyscraper that developers plan to build on the riverfront starting this summer. The tax district will generate millions of dollars in income taxes that will go toward paying for about $118 million in infrastructure that is deemed the “public” portion of the project. That will include extending River Road to Eighth Street, building a section of floodwall, creating a public park and plaza and moving a large LG&E tower. http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061214/NEWS01/61214058/0/FEATURES

and the cable stayed bridge wins....i don't like this one ------------------------------------------------------- Bridge designs chosen The downtown cable-stayed design features three low-height towers and cables that are arranged in a simple harp formation. The support cables attach to the outside of the deck superstructure. The middle tower is slightly higher than the two on the outside. (Ohio River Bridges Project) Cable-stayed bridges with towers rising hundreds of feet into the air are the designs chosen for two new Ohio River bridges, a committee announced Tuesday. The 10-member design committee unanimously selected the bridge designs during a 30-minute meeting in Jeffersonville, Ind.

yes sir, this is the internet, i keep forgetting.

Yes...4th street live but: MP is not built yet...nor is the arena. wow, you're like a genious aren't you...... MP is making significant strides towards contruction starting in the summer of 2007....thats less than 5 months away. the arena has been approved and will be complete the same year as MP.

it already has...if you havent noticed.....i'd swear you all dont read any of these articles i post see...Museum Plaza adviser brings world of experience in contemporary art

oh and ren cen=5.5 million square .....MP=1.2.....like i said, stop comparing, it makes no sense.

Of course Detroit is bigger than Louisville..i think i already said i've been there on several ocassions. museum plaza will serve a purpose to the city of louisville that the ren center does not serve to detroit. and thats education and art.....how does the ren cen have anything to do with education and art? i wouldn't compare musuem plaza to anything.....especially not the ren center.

its not the same.

Museum Plaza partners, unions sign agreement Prevailing wages are part of pact By Sheldon S. Shafer The Courier-Journal The partners in Museum Plaza, the ambitious $465 million, multiuse skyscraper planned at River Road and Seventh Street, have reached an agreement with local labor unions on the project's construction. The Museum Plaza partners -- husband and wife investment team Steve Wilson and Laura Lee Brown, attorney Craig Greenberg and developer Steve Poe, head of Poe Cos. -- have signed an "agreement of cooperation" with the Greater Louisville Building & Construction Trades Council. Museum Plaza plans call for a 62-story tower with a 246-room Westin hotel, 99 luxury condominiums, a museum, parking, a large public plaza, office and retailing adjacent to the Muhammad Ali Center. It would be, by far, Kentucky's tallest building. Full article: http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061212/BUSINESS/612120319

The reason the two are compared with one another is because their purposes/uses are strikingly similar... -both projects are large scale mixed-use projects (hotel, retail, office, etc). -They both are behemoth projects that leads one to question the demand for such a project (whether its debatable or not). -The two projects are also viewed as rejuvinating projects for otherwise stagnant downtowns (just opened a can of worms there). -Both are out of context with their downtowns RenCen (location)....MP (scale) last time i checked, the ren cen has nothing to do with any masters program or any university, and is not connected directly to several popular museums. and one would have to be blind to see that the ren cen is huge compared to museum plaza which is going to be built on a peice of land that not even half of the ren cen could fit on.....again, stop comparing apples and oranges. And again i say, educate yourself before opening your mouth.....sorry, but that remains true for several of you. its a flat out STUPID comparison. stagnent downtown?...yes, obviously you know nothing about downtown louisville. lets see....4th street live...walking distance from MP....the new downtown arena, walking distance from mp....the Ali Center...walking distance from MP(connected directly to MP)....a new ohio river bridge... ------------------------from SCC "Current construction costs in downtown: 447 million dollars. Basically half a billion. Not bad I would say. This number does not include Museum Plaza or the arena or RiverPark PLace or any other projects that have been "announced". Now, if you factor in those projects, plus the other smaller projects that have not yet started: 1.250 Billion dollars in investment planned So, combine those two numbers together, and basically there is 1.7 billion dollars in investment taking place right now or announced in the CBD. This doesn't even take into account the investments planned at the Medical Center by Norton Heathcare, the new VA Hospital which is planned for downtown, a mystery development at the old Water Company block, or several housing and loft developments along East Main that are barely not considered the Central Business District. So, in my estimation, it is a safe to say that downtown is closing in on 2 billion dollars in investment... Downtown Louisville's brightest days really are ahead of us." ------------------------ so if thats your definition of a stagnant downtown, i'd hate to see what your definition of an active one is.... oh, and in case you haven't opened your eyes and checked yet, the museum plaza designed has been revised...even though its not a lot, it is different than the original rendering. The number of studio lofts dropped to 117, from 150, to give the University of Louisville's Master of Fine Arts program more room. The arts program will cover 36,500 square feet over four floors, including a glass shop. The hotel will have about 50 fewer rooms, but it will include a ballroom, fitness center, spa, restaurant and a bar. Guests will check in at a public "island" on the 25th through 27th floors. http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061206/NEWS01/612060527

how old are you? awefully grouchy arent we?

new article...EDUCATE YOURSELF!! -- ---------------------- Museum Plaza signs union agreement Officials with Museum Plaza, the 62-story skyscraper proposed for downtown Louisville’s western edge, have reached a union agreement for construction expected to start next year. Steve Wilson, Laura Lee Brown, Steve Poe and Craig Greenberg entered into an agreement of cooperation with the Greater Louisville Building & Construction Trades Council, according to a press release issued Monday. “We are thrilled to enter into an agreement with such a precedent-setting project such as Museum Plaza.” said Joe Wise, business manager of the Greater Louisville Building & Construction Trades Council. “This agreement is mutually advantageous and allows for a strong working relationship between ourselves and Museum Plaza. We look forward to working on this project as Louisville embraces its first skyscraper of this magnitude.” Museum Plaza is a $465 million project that will include a public plaza connected to the Muhammad Ali Center and is expected to be completed by 2010. http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061211/NEWS01/61211019

new article....EDUCATE YOURSELF! =-============ Museum Plaza adviser brings world of experience in contemporary art Belgian-born Chris Dercon, 48, lives in Munich. He has a reputation as a daring museum director and successful curator. He speaks French, German, Dutch, English, Italian and Portuguese -- all in the same steady stream of energy. And he visited Louisville last week to be officially introduced as the newest high-profile member of the Museum Plaza planning team. Dercon is unnervingly emphatic that Louisville is not unlike Rotterdam, Netherlands, where he once lived. "The point is, you can't say anymore we are just Louisville, we are just Rotterdam. … Open your eyes. I will try to show you everything is connected to everything else. Who said that? Lenin. Even if Lenin said it, it's true. We can't let just businessmen connect ourselves. … Everything is global." Dercon did clarify the previous week's confusion that he might be the first director of the proposed Museum Plaza's contemporary arts center on the western edge of downtown Louisville. Dercon said, no, he's just an adviser, a consultant, and it is "too fast" to be talking about any kind of structured role for him with the Museum Plaza planning team even though he has been given a title: director of museum development. In fact, he said, if anyone asks him what he does for a living, "I say I work in a museum. That's all." Full article: http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061210/COLUMNISTS14/612100319

this site is not isoloted....its in no way similiar to the ren cen site.....except that its on the riverfront http://www.dexigner.com/forum/index.php?s=22266392c3ef29ac2a214dbf339c38d3&act=Attach&type=post&id=3035

no, museum plaza is in more than walking distance from the other skyscrapers. and it is connected directly to main street, and the ali center and the other museums around that area. again, you are another example of someone that knows nothing about downtown louisville or this site. you need to educate yourself before speaking.