necromantical

the ren cen looks like it has about 6 individuals buildings...museum plaza is one single tower....but then again i don't know much about it, and don't really give a shit either.

they really have nothing to do with each other...so i don't see the point of even comparing them.

thats a bad comprison

uofl has campuses all over kentucky. this would be a graduate program only in MP

Hotel: Westin. Height: 62 story, 703 ft.. Additional Cost: $85M. Total Cost: $465M Start Construction: Few Months.

Louisville's Museum Plaza plan expands, cost grows By Marcus Green The Courier-Journal Museum Plaza, the skyline-altering complex proposed for downtown's western edge, will be larger than previously planned and cost an extra $85 million by the time it opens in 2010. It also will radically change traffic along the city's waterfront, extending River Road and closing part of Seventh Street. Museum Plaza's developers today will release those and other details about the $465 million, 62-story skyscraper that will include a public plaza connected to the Muhammad Ali Center. After 21 months of planning, the project's investors say they are prepared to move forward with construction by next summer. The complex will be anchored by a 246-room Westin hotel, the first business in the trio of buildings near Seventh between River Road and Main Street in the heart of the city's museum district. An elevated 140,000-square-foot public park, accessible by car and foot from Main Street, will connect to the plaza and include a circular drop-off to Museum Plaza and the Ali Center. FULL ARTICLE: http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/...WS01/612060527

i think i said it was getting ready to break ground...as in leading up too.....i think this is one of the biggest stage on the path to ground breaking in 2007.

i think i posted that same thing in an article a few posts ago...why didn't you jump on that too? see: Funding and construction

moving alonh Museum Plaza enlists international art adviser New type of space interests Dercon A new international member for Louisville's Museum Plaza planning team arrived in town yesterday for a first round of introductions to the art and business communities. Chris Dercon, 48, is artistic director of Hause der Kunst in Munich, which Adolf Hitler built from 1933 to '37 as a space for the cultural propaganda of his nationalist art program and a way to demonstrate the unacceptability of "degenerate," or what was then contemporary, art. Today, Hause is a contemporary art center. Dercon is noted for his experience in transforming older museums into vibrant community centers of art, said Steve Wilson, a Museum Plaza partner who made the rounds yesterday with the new adviser. Dercon flew in from Munich via Brazil and leaves today for Miami before heading on to Houston -- all stops related to his work as a curator, critic and lecturer. His presence in Louisville underscores the increasingly global position of the $465 million riverfront project that is scheduled to break ground early next year. Dercon said yesterday that the project interests him as a radically new type of exhibition space but that his connection to the project is stll "in flux." FULL ARTICLE: http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061205/NEWS01/612050339

you know a lot of history

well, i did create it.....so how is it favortism?

i monitor it no more than you ...

but we already know how its going to be financed. thats not really an issue, there is no reason to beleive it is going to be a negative in the future either.....but Mrnyc sems to want it the other way around lol....but just FYI, here is the funding info ------------------------------------- Funding and construction Construction on Museum Plaza is expected to start in early 2007 and be completed in 2010, Greenberg said. A park and pedestrian plaza, also paid for by the city and state, would connect Museum Plaza to the rear of the museums along West Main, including the Frazier Historical Arms Museum, the Louisville Science Center and the Kentucky Museum of Art and Craft. The government would issue $75 million in bonds for the improvements, with the annual debt to be covered by rebating 80 percent of the new state and local taxes generated by Museum Plaza, Greenberg said. FULL ARTICLE: http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060209/NEWS01/602090386/0/FEATURES ----------------- and i don't know about you, but i think the fact that they are razing buildings on location, says that this project is moving along smoothly.

what about that shopping plaza right across the street from PJCS? how is that doing? there isa new baseball stadium right next to the football stadium as well. and i know that area has seen a lot of immigrants lately. as far as the interstate goes, i don't think it really affects that area too much, i didn't notice it my first time at churchhill downs.

its also a pretty nice neighborhood. what highway are talking about? papa johns is around the 4th street Iroqouis park area. There has been a lot of development in that area over the past 10 years.

well, i think the area is pretty cool...its like two blocks from churchill downs. during derby that area becomes hollywood.

the developers are brown and foreman....they shouldn't have any probmels with financing. nothing says there will be a problem with financing in the future either. the city, state and developers are backing this project. i thaught it was a good article myself.

good READ ----------------- The Visionaries Joshua Prince-Ramus and Erez Ella will transform Louisville's skyline with Museum Plaza. Their own transformations into architectural wunderkinds are as fascinating as their design. By Joshua Hammann When you exit the elevator on the 10th floor of 160 Varick St. in Manhattan, there are no great mahogany double doors with gold lettering announcing the presence of Ramus Ella Architects. Step through the plain white doors, marked with just a tiny sign that reads "REX," and there is no pretty young secretary with a big desk and headset wrangling dozens of incoming calls. There's no one, actually, and you might find yourself standing there, feeling quite silly, waiting for someone to take pity and ask what you're looking for. And when you finally are noticed, and ask where you can find Joshua Prince-Ramus, one of the firm's founding partners and a leading architectural voice of his generation, you are not whisked into a sprawling office with expansive views of the Hudson River. Because neither Prince-Ramus nor his partner Erez Ella even have offices. They have almost 10,000 square feet of wide-open space, flush in the natural light that pours through a wall of tall windows. They have long, low tables stacked with computers, pre-cut wood shapes and foam slabs. They have 43 very cool, very busy-looking people on staff, pecking away at computers or slumped by the handful over models of tiny skyscrapers. FULL ARTICLE: http://www.velocityweekly.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061129/VELOCITY01/611290355/1065

this is cool.....still doesn't come close to the ole' buckeye stadium before after An expanded Papa John’s Cardinal Stadium with 63,600 seats should be ready to open for the 2009 University of Louisville football season. The school’s athletic association board of directors on Wednesday unanimously approved plans to go ahead with the $65 million expansion project. The school will send out requests for proposals to architecture firms by the end of this week with a goal of beginning construction by January 2008. In October, U of L athletic director Tom Jurich revealed artists’ renderings of the expanded stadium, which currently holds about 42,000 fans. But he said at the time he needed to gauge the interest of the fan base before proceeding. The school hopes to raise $30 million in donations and pay for the other $35 million by issuing bonds. The bonds would then be paid for by the revenue generated by the extra seating, particularly in the additional 2,000 loge seats on the stadium’s east side. http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061129/SPORTS02/61129045

must be in one of the locked ones lol

I am not sure that anyone has ever competed for tallest/most dynamic tower on the Ohio River. you're right....the tallest battle is really taking place below the Ohio....i.e. Nashville, Atlanta, etc..

I'd go out on a limb and will say MP will be built....without a doubt :) the only way i would have doubted MP is if Doward had been elected Mayor, because i don't think he would support anything proposed under Abramson. But since Jerry is back, i think all these projects will go through. i just think some have a problem grasping the fact that louisivlle will have the tallest towers on the Ohio river....if not the tallest, then definatly the boldest.

shovels on what? you realize the footer on all your posts is cartoon and not reality don't you? well, the arena has been approved, and the fact that they are prepping buildings on main street for MP tells me that it is making positive progress...not negative, as you would want people to beleive. the developers said they have major announements in the next two months, and i have heard absolutley nothing from the state, the city, or REX that would make me beleive they are going to modify the design, or not go ahead with this building....so i have to wonder, who is being more unrealistic, me or you? or do you just like being a prick for the hell of it?

show you the shovels on what? waterfront park is pretty much complete, minus the pedistrian walkway which is under construction, andc yes it is much bigger than "three blocks". And Museum Plaza construction is underway, wether you want to beleive it or not.

i dont drink, but that should be a cool attraction