Rando Sinclair

Did you add dual 600-foot buildings in this, and also is this Bedrock owned property? I say that because if you make those two buildings cylindrical, it would look like a mini-Ren Center (with SW in the background) from this angle. That would give Gilbert a little feel of Detroit in Cleveland.

I agree that there is a shortage of true marketable homes and that has pushed the cost of up on those and I agree there are also crap houses available (and also some non-crap houses that may be in more non-desirable neighborhoods) that are also available. But until a high percentage of those crap houses are absorbed (there are crap houses in all the hot markets that are selling above market), it will limit the sheer number of new building permits. I guess my overall point is that some markets, population growth more directly correlates to the number of new permits. In a city like Cleveland, growth could be occurring just as fast even if the number of new permits is twice as little since there are far more available housing units (that is what BOA's internal numbers seem to show). Plus, for building permits themselves, it would be interesting to see where the majority are going in different markets. My guess is the majority of permits in Cuyahoga County are within 5 miles of downtown; where as in say Austin they may be 10-15 miles out because they are still in the sprawl (or building out) portion of their growth. Cleveland seems to finally be at the rebuilding the core portion of its growth.

I'm not reading too much into the building permit numbers because unlike those other markets, metro Cleveland has a glut of existing homes that had been vacant that need to be filled before new ones are built. Once occupancy catches up there, I'm guessing that if the BOA numbers are accurate, is when you'll see an even bigger jump in new building permits.

Even before the relocation, the old headquarters was in southern Summit County, but since it had a North Canton mailing address it seems like most people lumped it in with Canton. That isn't exactly wrong considering it was across the street diagonally from Timken's HQ, which is in Stark County.

Looks like your question was answered as for why, which is something I suspected – lack of existing adequate rail available to make it a 3C-A-D corridor. I'm not railroad expert, but can follow where rail lines go on a map and it seems like there a a couple options for Akron to potentially be added down the line (probably way down the line ... after most of us are long gone). But there it appears there are two E-W lines that go through downtown Akron that have to intersect with the N-S 3C-D route. The one goes through NW Akron and then through Medina. The other goes more southwest through Barberton and then through Wadsworth and Rittman and into Lodi. I'm sure either would take significant upgrades to what would be 30-50 miles of track (since neither are straight shots), but it looks like there are a couple options to connect Akron (and then maybe even Canton and Youngstown even further down the road) into the main 3C-D line. It won't help for 3C-D, but Akron-Canton specifically could also be connected to the E-W lines through Cleveland via the CSVR. Again, probably too costly to ever gain traction in the near future, but it seems reasonable that if anything happens beyond just the 3C-D line, that Akron (since it would be the largest metro unserved) would be next up on any further expansion in some capacity.

Especially since they just set the market high AF on major sports franchise prices with the Milwaukee Bucks. Smart for them since they already "bought low" on an NFL team a decade ago. If the Bucks are valued at nearly 4 billion, the Browns (or any NFL team) should be double that. Sell off a 10-15 percent minority stake in the Browns and it should be the cash in hand to build a privately funded stadium. Yeah, it's more complicated than that and the Haslams will try to squeeze what they can out of this. But they are sitting on at least a couple billion on the Browns without losing controlling stake if they "need" cash to get a private stadium built. Its gonna be very hard for them to cry about not having the ability to finance a new stadium privately after they just paid what they did in with the Bucks. That's not to mention the potential profit (and the asset) owning your own stadium could (and likely would) bring.

This is me speculating by trying to piece things together. But could the team be looking to build a stadium way south ... like Lodi south? There is land all around the 71/76 interchange. 76 is convenient for the Akron and Youngstown areas. It also chips off 45 minutes from northern portions of Columbus, an area the Browns probably feel like they are losing their grip on. It would suck for everybody in Cuyahoga County, especialy eastsiders, but 271 does merge with 71 in Medina (10-15 miles north of 71-76). On top of that, there is the revived 3C corridor talks. Could a stop be added in that area if there would be plans to build a stadium way out there??? Again, just speculating and I would personally hate it, but the team did look to move to Strongsville in the 70s/80s (where South Park Mall now is), so "going south" wouldn't be a brand new idea.

You would know more than I would, but I was assuming that which part of town they are being directed toward leans on religious lines ... Ukrainian Jews likely being steered toward the eastern burbs where the bulk of the Jewish community is, and the Eastern Orthodox Ukrainians being steered toward Parma/Parma Heights and the SW burbs where the bulk of the existing Ukrainian community has been established. FWIW, I have a nephew in Parma City Schools and he said all three of the high schools have each seen a handful of new students from Ukraine since the start of the year. As for the city of Cleveland not getting any of the refugees so far isn't that big of an issue, IMO. The inner burbs also have a plenty of vacant housing themselves. I'm guessing the 3,000 or so who have already have been resettled – and those who will follow – have/will be going somewhere in Cuyahoga County. This region is still too caught up on municipal boundaries when my take is that even though they operate as their own fiefdoms, as long as the core 100-200 square miles around downtown are gaining residents, it's still healthy for the city/county/region in the long run. On another note, has anybody seen/read any updates on whether the area is still getting Afghan refugees? Last I saw the number was around 1,000, with the goal of it being 10,000. I think a goal for 10,000 Ukrainian refugees should also be attainable. The region also still seems to be a destination for Puerto Ricans leaving the island, though it seems like the big flux after Rita has leveled off. But I remember looking at some domestic migration data within the last year and from what I recall, metro Cleveland (though Lorain probably accounts for a large chunk there) was averaging something like a +1,000 per year inflow vs. those who were leaving to go back to the island. I think most people on here would love for Cleveland to suddenly turn into Atlanta/Houston/DFW, etc., and start picking up 10,000-plus immigrants a year, but that will take time. And if the region has added roughly 5,000-6,000 over the past two years (between Afghan, Ukrainians and a still steady flow of Puerto Ricans), that is a good start and help further the region's image in terms of future immigrants.

True, there.

Trump as a third party is music to my ears, lol. He would still get 20-25 percent of the vote with DeSantis around 25-30. That would all but guarantee that whoever is running on the Dem side wins in a landslide (in Ohio and nationally). Will the GOP controlled state governor certify the results in that scenario is a huge question? But that's a conversation that can be had in a couple years if that comes to be. Anyway, my take on 2024 is that either Trump or DeSantis are going to be hard to very hard beat in Ohio, regardless of the Dem presidential candidate. I'll counter that with that Sherrod Brown will also be hard to beat regardless of his GOP Senate opponent. I've been looking at the potential 2024 race for a while now and I think that regardless of whether it's only one of Trump/DeSantis on the presidential side and Brown on the Senate side that Trump/DeSantis may win the presidential race by a point or two and Brown wins the Senate race by a point or two. I still believe that if both sides are on their "A games", Ohio is still a very competitive state. Republicans have been on their "A game" and other than Brown, Dems have ran nothing but B and C teamers out there in statewide races (though part of that is Brown is their only "A" candidate). Though I think Emilia Sykes has a chance to be a rising star with her credentials. She checks off a lot of boxes when it comes to the type of Dem that can get the base to turn out. It'll be interesting to see what her plans for the future are.

I agree 2024 will be a huge barometer. On top of Sherrod Brown being on the ballot in the Senate race, it could also be with Trump on the presidential ticket (though I suspect it will be DeSantis). The results between the state's most popular GOP candidate (Trump) vs. the state's most popular Democratic candidate (Brown) would be the truest indication of how far red Ohio has turned ... if that comes to fruition.

Whaley easily is the weakest Dem governor candidate since Ed FitzGerald (FitzGerald before his implosion was still going to get routed) and she was running against a much tougher opponent. Whaley has very little name recognition in NE Ohio. On top of that, it seemed like DeWine was beating her in advertising up here by a 10-1 margin (even as of a couple days ago) even though the governor's race was never in doubt.

Completely disagree that Ryan did anything to help Kaptur, Sykes or Landsman. I know Kaptur absolutely outperformed him in her district and I'm going to take an educated guess that Landsman and Sykes also outperformed Ryan. Plus, none of those three districts really were longshots. OH-9 was redrawn to where it went something like +2/+3 for Trump in 2020. But Marcy Kaptur has a ton of support in Lucas and the counties along the lake (Ottawa, Sandusky, Erie). It was going to take a very good GOP candidate to oust her even if the "numbers" showed it to lean GOP. The GOP candidate was anything but a good candidate. OH-1 was one that had gone from +2/3 Trump to +2/3 Biden between 2016 and 2020. So, it had already been trending away from Chabot. While I didn't see that one coming, the only reason I thought Chabot could win was due to his incumbency. OH-13 was one that I never understood why all the pundits had it as a GOP lean. Even if using Trump's numbers in 2020, it still went +5/6 to Biden. Sykes was a very qualified candidate who has a well-known name, especially within the city of Akron. So, no, I don't think Tim Ryan had anything to do with those House races going blue.

Ryan didn't flip anything other than Lorain County. Look at the 2020 map (Trump +8) to the 2022 map (Vance +7), there was zero changes outside of Lorain going from +3 Trump to +2 Ryan. Even most of of the other 87 counties that stayed the same had margins that were like +/- 2/3 percent of what they were in 2020. What was similar in 2020 and 2022? It was the lack of votes from the two most populated and Democratic counties that moved the state from being competitive to +7/8 GOP at the top of the ticket. Once again Cuyahoga and Franklin lagged way behind ... though I don't think the Twitter guy's numbers are correct. Maybe if all three of Cuyahoga, Franklin and Hamilton reached 55 percent, Ryan would have won. I'm guessing that would add up. It wasn't just Cleveland that had abysmal turnout. Almost predominately black precinct in Cuyahoga came in at 35 percent or less. Black voters go Democratic by a 90-10 margin and Ryan ignored them. And lets be real, for all the talk about how good of a campaign Tim Ryan was running, he dropped the ball a couple months ago when he went full "running as a Republican." He raised $50 million and spent nearly every last penny on constant ads for two straight months talking about how he "voted on trade with Trump"; testimonials from 60-year old white "Trump supporters" who don't trust Vance; and tossing around footballs with Bernie Kosar. He did virtually nothing to reach out to key Democratic demographics (those under 30, women, blacks) despite that record fundraising. I guess the ad with his wife about agreeing 7 out of 10 was his ad toward women ... As a Democrat, Vance turned that one around on him with the "he only agrees with his wife 7 out of 10 times, but with Joe Biden 100 percent of the time." That one landed hard, imo. I'll admit I was among those who thought Tim Ryan was best candidate for that race (assumed he could follow the Sherrod Brown map). He failed at that miserably. Not only did he not flip SE Ohio or rural NW Ohio to any significant degree (at least Brown was able to do that), he also alienated the key Democratic blocs (Brown gets them to the polls). ... Granted, Brown is a different situation but he's run a lot more progressive than what Biden and Ryan did the past two major elections. I think what 2020 and now 2022 show is that Republicans have a +7 or +8 advantage in Ohio as long as the Democrat at the top of the ticket is a Joe Biden or Tim Ryan type.

It's living high off the chitlins. I wish that was a clever joke.