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Looking at the map above, I've also noticed someone working a site plan here in the office of the area west of the Ontario triangle. I'll do some investigating...

Here at my place of employment, we do some work for Forest City (for better or worse) and I walked by a desk of one of the higher up people, and there is a rendering of an ESPN Zone at the northwest corner of Prospect and Ontario, the south end of the Higbee Building. Could be that rear tenant they have been looking for...

What about Steve's Lunch at W48th and Lorain for a 24 hours spot? If you are looking for late night characters, this place is choch full of them. On any given friday or saturday at 3:30, my friends and I represent the drunk white mid 20's guy crowd for better or worse. $1.29 chilli dogs, put me down for a half dozen.

Not a fan of the "emoticons" (autobots and decepticons?) for some reason. I thought the "like, 2 billion..." was enough. Live and learn. :mrgreen: That was tough.

Sigh... There is no need to warn me about using more care, it's called sarcasm. Obviously it wouldn't cost 2 billion. I didn't expect the County auditors to be checking my math so intently.

My thoughts exactly urbanlife. Dan, how does having several hundred people begging for money in front of a mall not effect business in some way? Use some common sense. Also, they don't pay taxes so it really doesn't belong to them.

Rem Koolhaas is in my top 5 favorite architects in the world, but I thinnk you guys will get a kick out of this one. Oil Ocean Zone, Sonic 2.

Look how well dressed everyone is in those photos. People now ride airplanes in sandals and cut offs. I've heard the mural is at the Western reserve Historical Society, but I wish they would put that somewhere it would have more relavence. Put it at the Airport, or even back into Tower City somewhere. Such a cool mural, made out of coated porcelin. Really exudes the industrial muscle of the city. On a weird note, I've owned the book "The Terminal Tower Complex, 1980" for many years, and for whatever reason the book smells like the station used to smell before it was renovated to Tower City. I was only 7 when they started tearing up the station, but I swear that's what it smells like. Maybe I'm out of my mind, whatever. Nice pics though.

Trust me, I'm glad these guys keep building, they and Zaremba are the only ones to put shovels in the ground so far. However, that is not contemporary residential design. I realize it's a model, but that is where they are heading. I hope they just have a severly underqualified model builder at Corna's studio, but from the quarter circles that are cut into the ground level of the building currently under construction, it's the designer that is the issue.

I found this interior shot of the Cleveland station, although it is for RTA trains, it's probably similiar to what the rest of the station looked like. It was taken in the late 70's. I wish I could have seen this city's passenger rail at it's peak...

A rail connection from TC to the SYC stripmall would cost like, 2 billion dollars. Why not just leave the land as it was and concentrate on filling the voids in our central core with these retailers (maybe not Home depot). I don't there is going to be any swaying of opinions for this project, one camp thinks it's a good idea in the right location, and the other is correct.

God I hope this project is designed well...

Yeah, I like the drama that they're going for on that side, but in those models, it looks just horrible and high-school design project-ish. I sure hope the finished product looks/works better. It looks like a poorly executed 1st semester, first year design by the first victim of cuts in architecture school. How do some of these people become designers?

Those things are bad ass, I'd welcome them to the view of the Lake from the shores.

The arch on the west side of the next building scares the hell out of me...

Ok, I though it was derogitory. My bad. I think looking like it's from the Planet of the Apes is all the more reason to keep it. Like you said, it's no where else in the world. Cleveland: The Planet City: home to the Daily Planet and Planet of the Apes.

Obviously an abandoned building does not interact well with the street. For a tower of its size, the abstract voids in the lower facade are an incredible feature. Imagine it lit at night. Light would pour into the street and invite people to put their hand and head against the window to view the interior. Secondly, the tower was designed to allow the rotunda building to have prominance in the composition, which is why it is setback 10 or 15 feet from the old structure. This building does not make itself obviously graceful or aesthetically pleasing, but if you actually pay attention to some of the moves Breuer made, it is quite an itricate and subtle piece of architecture. If this building was a piece of sh*t I wouldn't care if Jesus designed it, I would say tear it down, I'm not some modern preservationist. For the county, how are these floor plates not big enough? What are they doing, rolling steel in there? If they are worried about putting it on less floors, buy an empty piece of land and save yourself $22 million dollars, or better yet, build it in the f'ing suburbs off of a freeway exit. This is the city, build vertically here. "weeeeeell it looks like a building from the Planet of the Apes, or it looks like an abandoned bee hive, oooorr......" Well Key Tower looks like a vibrator, the Old Arcade is shaped like a flask, and the Terminal Tower looks like someone sitting Indian style from the air, or the jackknife bridge looks like a middle finger..... Let's tear all those down while we're at it. Guarantee 20 years from now everyone will think it was a mistake to tear it down and replace it with some piece of garbage, that's just the way it works with architecture opinions.

The environmentalists are a walking contradiction. Should we continue to pollute our entire planet with carbon dioxide, or have clean renewable energy sources that may or may not decapitate several hundred birds? I'm all for a sustainable world, but they can't have it both ways. Do they protest solar because it steals sunlight from the sun too?

I would put this midway on the fantasy-to-reality scale. ^^Why?

Not sure how the Breuer building is anti-urban at street level, the entrance could be one of the most interesting in the city if it were cleaned and utilized. Also, you the opinions of the County Commissioners are now considered valid X? These are the same commissioners who have no problems spending $40 million to get to a point of having no building. I say their intelligence can be greatly questioned, as well as those who think this building should come down simply because they think it's ugly.

Isn't the idea to get people onto the streets to create more activity? Skybridges are a construction that is the least condusive for such. Corna, while I am pleased he is doing all these projects, has never been confused as a great designer. If only there was a firm that could combine the two in this city, I would be pounding on their door as we speak.

Is the information for the E120th Street Station anywhere on the University Circle website, or is that coming soon? I'd really like to get involved with that project in any way possible.

"Plans show the commons would be connected via an enclosed walkway above Washington Avenue to Stonebridge Place, a planned, 68-unit loft condominium building." Not sure I'm very excited about skybridges in the Flats, overall though, keep on building Corna.

What about the Euclid Tavern at E118 and Euclid? I haven't been there since I was a teenager and the sign, though still bad ass, looks shabby and the place abandoned.

Why does the university even own the building on Euclid Avenue? Condensing everything into the building on Prospect seems to be a no brainer. It's in the middle of the city in a relatively attractive building, while the other is marooned down Euclid Avenue, accessible basically by car or bus. How much of the Prospect Building is even utilized by them?