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What else would you expect from them? :wink:

I'll give you this, They are valid and interesting questions yet I hope the chips don't fall that way. I know we probably ride the same line when it comes to vouchers.

^^Yea, agree with dmerkow's comment, that type of ideology WILL not help in the city's efforts to get alot of their neighborhoods back. Your kid from West High probably wasn't even from Western Hills and don't be so naive, that kind of incident could have happened in any city or suburban school for that matter. I hope to see OTR succeed just as much as most of you, but if we take that reverse ideology and shift it to what you call the "westside" like you almost sound like you WANT to happen.........Well, that just doesn't help the problems of this city at all. If the city wants to be successful in the 21st century, they have to recognize where their biggest potential to harness that rests. There are too many people and homes (almost 1/3 of the pop.) west of 75 to just say "let it go" or move ALL of OTR's REMAINING problems to. Michael Redmond, you kind of surprise me with that post. That is something taken right off the Cunningham show. "Let's keep the cancer of the county contained to one area of the county" right? Haven't we concluded over the last 60-70 years that DOESN'T WORK. example:OTR Yea, property values are down, but they are down everywhere. Crime was down last year in Price Hill and is trending to be down in Westwood this year. What created the problems in OTR over the years is 20th century history!!! We should strive to make sure that NO neighborhood in this city should have to bear ALL the types of burdens OTR has EVER AGAIN. IT DOESN'T WORK and it is not in the best interests of the city to encourage these type of trends you describe. One can argue that the westsides NON inflated property values, STILL MANY SAFE neighborhoods, and proximity to the city could be a boon to Cincy's economy going forward in the economic state we are in. Besides OTR doesn't even have that many more people left in it. The way I see it, MANY neighborhoods have gone through a culture shock and had to adjust over the past decades with intigrating into more diverse and dynamic neighborhoods and you will continue to see this radiate throughout and beyond the 275 belt. Just like you see with younger people moving into OTR, I am seeing younger people move into my particular area of the westside (on an unbiased view). My property value DROP is nowhere near the national average. I know of people who are taking up to 80,00 dollar losses in outer ring suburbs. Mine might be pushing 5-8,000 if I had to sell it now, but houses are selling around me. These economic problems our society created will not be building houses out in the boonies like we have been. As a result, the patterns of our society will reverse (it maybe happening already). The MORE DESIREABLE REAL ESTATE will be located closer to DT. OTR should be doing pretty good by then, but I hope neighborhoods like P-Hill, Westwood, Covedale, Green, and Delhi Twp will have made up some ground that had been lost over the last 2 decades. The city SHOULD be working to really embrace the sign of the times right now AND USE THAT TO THEIR ADVANTAGE to raise population and encourage urban renewal and economic redevelopment albeit Glenway Ave !

Great news! How bout relocating that HQ to a real world class city? :wink:

Hey, at least they are staying within the county!!!

Officials: Speed Brent Spence work Ohio, Ky. leaders want action on bridge By Patrick Crowley • [email protected] • October 9, 2008 http://nky.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20081009/NEWS0103/810090364 A group of local officials from Northern Kentucky and Ohio has banded together to work on expediting replacement of the Brent Spence Bridge between Covington and Cincinnati. The group, which calls itself the "Bridge Builders," includes representatives from Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Covington and Campbell County.

Would using minority companies possibly be an issue with holding up a project of this size? (Even though I keep being told this is on schedule.) Not to question the intentions or integrity of these businesses, but are they equipped to take on this scope of work?

It's on schedule! A project as high a profile (w/ it's history) as this will always have it's critics..... Even when this is completed, their will be those that STILL put their two cents in as if they could have made this go faster if they were in charge. Hopefully we learn from our mistakes. (and not allow city/county to be involved with a project like this, even though we will never see one like this again.) Call it constructive criticism or whatever you want, but once these piers are in the ground and steel is on site for the above ground columns, then we will be cookin!!!!

God save the Queen - before Congress sinks her By Peter Bronson • [email protected] • October 5, 2008 http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20081005/COL05/810050319/1055/NEWS The Delta Queen is a wedding cake of a boat. It's a historic hotel on roller skates. A museum that floats like Ivory soap. A magical time machine that makes a lazy river stay up all night reading "Huckleberry Finn."

Start date for Ovation construction's a mystery Corporex updates, gives no timeline By Scott Wartman • [email protected] • October 7, 2008 http://nky.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20081007/NEWS0103/810070390 NEWPORT - The large riverfront residential/commercial complex Ovation will bring billions of dollars annually to Northern Kentucky, representatives of the developer, Corporex, told Newport City Commission on Monday. When construction will start is still not known.

Yea, maybe even take a hard look at San Fran and LA's operations. I would love to see more recycling in this city.

District 3 headquarters turning 100 By Kurt Backscheider • [email protected] • October 3, 2008 http://communitypress.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/C2/20081003/NEWS/810030384/ Cincinnati Police Department's District 3 headquarters has a milestone anniversary coming up later this year. The police station on Warsaw Avenue will turn 100 years old this December and a committee of District 3 community members are making plans to celebrate the building reaching the century mark.

It will add to that area quite nicely!

^yup!

^for sure!

This guys paints a very realistic view of the westside and where it may be going. Good Read cause he doesn't leave much out that we have talked about on here but kinda long. You westside born townies might like it. Builders’ Market A building boom is poised to bring new stores—even fancy, stone-covered ones—to west side shopping centers. But is it all really necessary? http://www.cincinnatimagazine.com/article.aspx?id=61632 By Jack Heffron Illustration by Ryan Snook The sign announces “Coming Soon Western Hills Plaza,” which stops me every time I see it. The large shopping center sprawled behind the sign is Western Hills Plaza and has been there since its grand opening on November 15, 1954. True, the plaza is undergoing significant construction to make way for a new Target that will sit smack in the middle. But come on, it’s pretty much the same place it’s always been. Still, the sign is a sign of a retail revolution erupting on the west side. For years—for decades, maybe even forever—folks on this side of town have complained about our lack of shopping convenience and selection. So you’d think that the buzz about a number of new retail centers would spark a lot of enthusiasm. Though I’ve taken no quantitative surveys and conducted not a single focus group, what I’ve heard people say in person, in the newspaper, and on Web forums is: not really. Click on link for article. Originally published in the September 2008 issue.

More fun for Harrison Ave travelers! Barrier to be up on Harrison near Rybolt Community Press Staff Report • September 29, 2008 http://communitypress.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/C2/20080929/NEWS/809290350/ A barrier wall will be set on the west side of Harrison Road near the Rybolt Road intersection beginning Tuesday, Sept. 30. The barrier will be about one-third of a mile long. ... More at: http://communitypress.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/C2/20080929/NEWS/809290350/

Ditto!

I want to see a Nader/Gonzo ad!! :wink:

Neyer

I want a bumper sticker that says that!!

JUST BOUGHT!!!! Second that!!

^Yea, he's a bum!! Essentially, this is the same article with a few different paragraphs. New park digging to begin Waterfalls, gardens and more beside river http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080929/NEWS01/809290318

Work to start on new riverfront park, called the city's front yard http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080928/NEWS01/80928006

^ That's funny, I thought about how ironic that was this week too!! Cincy's new tallest since 29, and their are some eerily similar issues going on in the world today.