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I would absolutely hate to see it go as well, but can understand all the factors that will ultimately dictate it. I just hope you guys see the amazing opportunity that has hit the upper portion of Glenway within the past year. We are having businesses move out and new ones moving in. Older buildings coming down being replaced by better modern buildings. The Landscape itself is changing more now than over the past 20 years collectively (See previous pages). I see this as a special opportunity that owners and residents alike need to embrace and be a part of. The housing stock is in great shape but our business corridors are very outdated and need some TLC (with special attention to walkability). The current economic conditions have made neighborhoods like ours seem much more desireable than they did just 6 months ago. For too long, people over here have thought that our proximity to downtown would be our ultimate downfall. That very reason might just be what helps encourage ECONOMIC REINVESTMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT in a stagnant business corridor ($4 gas prices). I appreciate the invite and may just stop in soon. Thanks for adding your side to this topic and I hope you keep us updated on your progress. I would much rather hear any future news (albeit sale or no sale) from you over any newpaper.

Congressman Chabot Joins Fight Against Planned Parenthood http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=6dea3261-19b2-430f-9c5b-2209754ae60b Last Update: 7:17 pm Planned Parenthood Clinic Move Stirs Controversy Web produced by: Ian Preuth and Thomas Nedeau Contributor: Kevin Delaney The new effort to stop Planned Parenthood from moving to Westwood near several local high schools has some congressional muscle. A number of local leaders, including Congressman Steve Chabot started a petition drive against the proposal Monday. Planned Parenthood bought a building on Ferguson Road. It plans to move from Bridgetown to that location in August. Pro-life groups said Planned Parenthood is targeting children and minorities. "We would hope that Planned Parenthood for once does the right thing and decides not to open here in such close proximity to schools and our vulnerable children," Chabot said. Planned Parenthood said the clinic does not perform abortions, but opponents worry the center will refer clients to Tri-State facilities that do.

I can understand and respect your thoughts (and agree) regarding the media. They do none of us on the westside any favors when it comes to Headlines. I am sure no one has ever made a mistake in how they responded to a question, or typed anything in a forum that they wished they wouldn't have? Didn't you just do that in saying things about my family? I can honestly say I stand completely corrected on any comments I made about any member of your family. Like I said before, that was a heat of the moment response and I am sorry. Do you have evidence the property values have declined? Haven't they increased? Mine's increased, that's what surprised me deep down about the comment. Frequent your neighbors places. Preaching to the choir here, but won't disagree with you that maybe I need to stop in for at least a beer at the bar. I have lost that bowling urge I had back in high school, but will entertain the option. Look, apparently we have gotten a little crossed up in language over the better part of a page on a thread that is suppose to showcase the good things happening over here. It's clear our ideology for this area might not be so different after all. I hope my (non diplomatic) comments after the article broke are not a representation of any other forumers or this site. There are many people on this site (including me) who feel community involvement is that community's biggest strength and asset. Please don't hesitate to pop back in and make sure we have our facts straight here. I wish you all the luck!

WOW

"May I ask what you would do? A business that is losing money due to the smoking ban and bowling in general, a company comes in and offers you money and you would refuse? We all have kids and also need to look ahead for their futures as well." Personally, my neighbors and I hold no grudges against turning this property into something more viable than it is presently (Present owners of not). I agree the smoking ban and the general popularity of bowling has had it's negative effects on the business and I don't blame the powers that be for exploring their options. These are things we can't change!!! I have had many GOOD memories from the 80's and 90's, but I personally have not stepped foot inside within the past decade. The decision of a possible sale is not what most people are mad about. It is the manner in which the 1st newspaper article (http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2008/06/02/story4.html) places blame on the surrounding community for it's downfall. CINCINNATI BUSINESS COURIER "This is not a done deal; however, it is an offer that is extremely attractive and will be hard to pass up if all the pieces fall into place," wrote Russ Hoinke in a May 15 post on a Pro Bowlers Association message board. "The Hoinke Tournament is still successful and fortunately is not the problem. Open bowling is way down, league bowling is terrible and the surrounding area is getting worse. These factors have all contributed to us exploring other options." Do you think that is fair to other business owners in the area? Do you think that is fair to other property owners and their PROPERTY VALUES surrounding the Alley? Can you provide any evidence that the area has gotten worse? Green Twp. crime stats has inched up a fraction of a percent within the past decade. That is outstanding considering the added 10,000+ extra residents brought in within that time PLUS the changing demographics. That same mentality that the area is getting worse is what has been hidering MANY other communities throughout the city. This type of negativity DOES NOTHING TO HELP THE SITUATION. In fact, it will only fuel local media to focus on that as the trigger. For decades the Hoinke's have been considered Pillars of the community! I thought this too! So how would you expect people to feel when one of their most prominant businessmen SLAPS them in the face with a comment like this? For most people, thier home is thier biggest investment. So what does this say to those people? Should we all put our houses up for sale and run?

For your information, I DO know the Hoinke's and some of the kids as well. But your right, perhaps I went a little too far with some of those comments about the family right after the release of the 1st article. I'll admit my wrong doing AND APOLOGISE! THAT WAS A HEAT OF THE MOMENT RESPONCE. They took an entire community THAT backed them for decades and threw them under the bus. And, I haven't read an apology anywhere. It's just sad that great landmark and a family that has done so much for bowling is being bashed. I would have agreed with this a couple weeks ago.

Please enlighten us on the facts! We know it hasn't officially been sold yet, but why would you make it public through every media outlet in this town if that were not the intentions? As for What have any of you done to make the Westside better? Well, We haven't gone to the papers as a businessman claiming that the "bad" neighborhood is why I am considering selling AND not because of the financials of the situation. That was a very unnecessary comment that has pissed alot of people in the area off. Obviously, you must not live in the area near the property.

They sit north of Liberty, right?

Overhaul byzantine federal road-building process to get bridge built BY MARK R. POLICINSKI http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080613/EDIT02/806130365/1021/EDIT

Three conventions in town this week BY THE ENQUIRER http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080616/NEWS01/806160374/1056/COL02

Abandoned homes distressing Untended eyesores hurt local values BY AMBER ELLIS | [email protected] The view from Tina Osborne's backyard isn't pretty. From her deck in Florence, she overlooks several feet of grass and weeds - a serious eyesore in the cul-de-sac of her Carters Mill subdivision where neighbors have a tradition of putting down mulch and working together in their yards each summer. A few weeks ago, the front yard of that same abandoned home didn't look much better - until a neighbor took it upon himself to cut the grass. He fears the untidy conditions will turn away potential buyers from his home, which is up for sale. ... More at: http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080616/NEWS01/806160307

Channel 5 is running a segment on how this is "back on the table" Monday at 5.

That abandonment (and sell off to developers) of the C&O line through the westside was the biggest rail blunder in the region. It could have served such a benefit to transportation from Westwood, P-hill, Green, etc.

Wilmington gripped by fear Officials fear DHL's leaving is calamitous BY ALEXANDER COOLIDGE | [email protected] http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080615/BIZ01/806150330/1076/BIZ

Freedom Center's future? BY JESSICA BROWN | [email protected] http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080615/NEWS0108/306150003/1077/COL02

^ :banger: That's great!

Speechless again!

^No tax break for that! What a screwed up tax system!

Special tax districts cost Hamilton County $2M a year Business Courier of Cincinnati - by Dan Monk Senior Staff Reporter http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2008/06/16/tidbits1.html

GE to finalists: Double that space Business Courier of Cincinnati - by Laura Baverman Staff Reporter http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2008/06/16/story1.html

Gas prices fuel jump in Midwest Consumer Price Index Business Courier of Cincinnati http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2008/06/09/daily57.html?surround=lfn

Price Hill Will turning homes around BY KURT BACKSCHEIDER | [email protected] http://news.communitypress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080613/NEWS/806130391/1140/RSS1129

3 Rivers to seek renewal of tax levy http://news.communitypress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080612/NEWS/806120428/1067/RSS1103

Yard sale will benefit Covedale theater http://news.communitypress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080612/NEWS/806120364/1067/RSS1103 Covedale's new entry plaza is inviting BY KURT BACKSCHEIDER | [email protected] http://news.communitypress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080613/NEWS/806130393/1140/RSS1129

The bowling pins are still being set BY KURT BACKSCHEIDER | [email protected] http://news.communitypress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080612/NEWS/806120430/1067/RSS1103 GREEN TWP. - Western Bowl owner Erv Hoinke Jr. said a development group has expressed interest in buying his family business, but nothing is definite about the future of the west-side landmark. "Nothing is carved in stone," he said. "We're still operating as a bowling center and will continue to do so. Our summer and winter leagues are still on."