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Cincinnati's never seem to go up to 5...

"The importance that everyone has put on the arts has been one of the things that has kept the politics at bay... The politics of it or the worry of interference hasn’t ever been a factor in Cincinnati.” ummmmmmmmm.

Columbus, on the whole, is doing more interesting new housing than Cincinnati.

I give Indy the edge on rendering. Add another 10 million for that to your totals.

Residential towers with views into GABP on the Heritage site.

An aeroplane on a 300 foot armature...celebrates flight?

Carew's art deco "glory" is on the plinth and in the interior, which aren't visible here. The detailing and materiality on the towers above is straight-up bland; A good depression-era example of value engineering. Getting the massing convincingly correct, which is the issue here, would actually better serve the render, as its familiarity would make the location of this hotel much easier to discern.

Looks like this building will be in the camera shot out of Paycor that only catches 312 Plum, in all of its blandness, at the moment. Stadium renovation renderings eliminate that gap in the stands, so the top of the hotel will likely be the only thing visible if that happens. I envy the camera shots out of Acrisure in Pittsburgh.

seriously. 3 more minutes of work...

One of the posts on the preliminary render of one of the buildings: "If I didn’t know better I’d say it’s a communist building in Moscow circa 1960 - brutal, cold, out of place both spiritually and architecturally." Well, the problem is, you don't know any better. It's a massing model.

They played at the Firstar center, which was a much better arena than Heritage, but perhaps not as great as The Crown.

So, would there be no concerts on nights that Music Hall has events? I imagine the acoustic concerns are real on this site.

This site will be the testbed for Uptown's innovative new construction process: Build the sign first and then attach a building to it.

Maybe Koch is doing the right thing and gearing up to move the hq to cincinnati and rename it Cincinnati Beer Company🤡

The idea of walking through a casino as a primary or secondary means of transit to another place doesn't give you the ick?

For somebody relying so heavily on the study to make your biggest points, it's strange that you're pushing the site that actually scored the lowest on said study. And speaking of the study, 3 stars out of 5 tells me there's development, but it's not booming. Great, that seems on-script for Cincinnati. I'm not expecting a miracle by any stretch of the imagination. As I've said elsewhere, the casino site is an absolute bottleneck, and Pendleton really doesn't deserve an arena, let alone a casino, foisted on its relatively intimate scale. The west side of the basin is, if the desire is there, essentially a blank slate, and the only place to grow if the basin continues to repopulate. I don't particularly care for the arena discussion in and of itself. It doesn't make a ton of sense to me. However, if there's going to be one, then I have a strong opinion, and in this case, it's driven more by what I believe are the bad choices. There's definitely no rose-tint in looking at the whole thing from a defensive position.

The combined scale of the convention center, it's eminent expansion, and the addition of an arena, to me, represent the best chance to actually cap whatever that part of 75 ends up looking like and reconnecting with the western side of the basin. I am not imagining an arena that marks the western limits of downtown, I'm imagining an arena that sparks development westward. If that's the case, then parking evaluations mean very little.

From what I've seen on this page, the land directly west of the convention center is not the parcel we're discussing. The arena would be directly south of that.

Featured buildings: Jabez Elliot Flower Market, 6th St. between Plum and Elm, Hannaford &Sons, 1890 (razed in 1950) Meat Market House, 6th St. between Central (Western Row) and Plum, Hannaford & Sons, 1896 (razed in 1960) There are very few photographs of the Meat Market, and even fewer of the Flower Market, available online. This recreation is based on those scant resources. Initially, I used only these images and the extant dimensions of the street grid to figure out the proportions and dimensions of the market houses. This has surely resulted in errors, but I believe I’ve matched the feel of those documents, at least. I’ve not found any images of the inside of the Meat Market’s end-pieces, which had two floors and a basement according to a Cincinnati Almanac entry marking its construction. I also have no idea what the ceiling of the center pavilion looks like. At the moment, those interior areas are just dark hallways and gypsum planes. I have enough reference to make a modest attempt at recreating the interior of the Flower Market, but I’ve left that out for now. It’s ostensibly a transparent building, and I’m doing it a disservice by wrapping it in opaque windows. All surrounding buildings are approximately correct in width and height, according to the 1935 Sanborn map. The facades of the buildings themselves, except in 1 or two cases, are all invented. The setting, accordingly, is 1935, though that is not at all reflected in the condition of the Meat Market as I’ve recreated it. By this time, the ornamentation on the roof had been altered pretty significantly and the spire atop the middle pavilion had been removed entirely. As for the interior, a single photograph from the 1950s shows a much changed interior than the one I constructed, which is based on a much earlier photo. I built this entirely in the Source 2 game engine. The engine’s native 3d tools are powerful and super-quick, but it comes up far short in handling high detail compared to a standalone 3d software, which I opted to not incorporate into the workflow for this iteration. As such, some of the more detailed geometry (reliefs and sculptures, for example) has been simplified or altogether ignored. My next move is to try to locate the Hannafords’ drawings for these buildings and do a more precise and detailed second iteration in Blender/Unreal 5. No bygone Cincinnati building haunts me more than the Meat Market. I think it’s one of the most culturally and symbolically significant demolitions in the history of the city, and not many people today know it, or the rest of the market, were ever there.

Sounds to me like he's making an argument for the convention center site.

QCFC is brilliant. There's no way it can't happen it's so good.

It appears there's at least twice as many chairs than machines in that space. I think your suspicions may be right. As for real, that's one of the things that hits me hardest looking at old photos of downtown. the abundance of super specialized, diverse retail.

enough space will be freed up on the northwest corner for an arena? I wrote a whole reply assuming it was the northeast corner because it just didn't cross my mind that that could happen. I could see it working between 5th and 6th, but that's tight corner for the interchange already.

Also, an arena at the convention center would likely have a good chance of instigating a cap over that section of 75.