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I'm not sure if Pittsburgh is developing more than the 3Cs. Maybe if either towers I noted above today get built, but overall, I would think that more is happening in the Cs. Regarding population, it's complicated, but the short answer is that the massive lose of steel (and related) jobs starting in the 70s, but exploding in 80s caused an additional burden on population growth - even as portions of the metro started to gain in migration, the overall population change would still be a net loss due to natural decline. The exodus of 30+ years ago created a unique issue for the metro of more deaths than births every year. Most metros - even ones with net migration loss, still have even modest gains from births. Not Pittsburgh.

New Downtown office building may be in the works

The NFL looks at markets, much like other industries. What a market is varies, but for the NFL it would include the TV DMA plus adjacent areas not close enough to another market of a league team. For the NFL, I assume that Lexington, Dayton and Louisville (unless they fall under Indy) are all part of the greater region that the NFL would consider Cincinnati. Not to mention a lot of non metro counties in southern Ohio and much of Kentucky.

If you hit stop on the browser immediately when a bzjournal article's text loads, the paywall doesn't appear.

I agree that UT hasn't turned Knoxville into a booming area, but that said, its metro has ok population growth. From the metro estimates released earlier this year for TN's biggest metros... metro - 2017 population - 1-year change -% change Nashville...1,903,045...34,190...1.8 Memphis...1,348,260...3,067...0.2 Knoxville...877,104...9,234...1.1 Chattanooga...556,548...4,591...0.8 Kingsport-Bristol...306,659...766...0.3 Clarksville...285,042...4,199...1.5 Johnson City...202,053...710...0.4 I don't know much about Clarksville, but it seems to be close enough to Nashville's orbit to benefit from it. Johnson City, is in the far eastern part of the state and appears to be a struggling smaller metro. Knoxville should be doing better given its assets, but 9K ain't bad in a year for its size Memphis, well, now that's treading water.

The TAMU site has all counties' data going back to 1970. It will likely be a week or so before these are added to it though.

Thanks for sharing. I saw this article in my FB feed just yesterday and when I read about it, I was fascinated. It's funny, I just learned of this building and now I see this post. https://www.citylab.com/design/2018/02/whats-in-the-future-for-cincinnatis-modernist-icon/552968/

Did Macy's corporate treat it differently? Or was it just another store?

That thread is over the top and there were many similar posts. The fact is that there are many cities that can fit Amazon's needs.

There's some truth to that, but a lot of the workers were temp from out of state - Texas etc and didn't "live" there. When I would visit family in nearby Ohio, I would see many out of state plates (from out west) and they were working in that industry.

Just catching up on this thread - glad to see some significant economic projects coming to Dayton. I haven't visited there in a long, long time, but it's exciting to see some positive news.

The dynamics and changes are more complex than the author cares to get into unfortunately. When it comes to migration and population change, it's a slow go. Negative natural change still is hurting the region - a legacy from the 80s.

Thanks for sharing.

New 17-story apartment building going up near Pitt, CMU

So wait, the proposed north arch won't directly connect to the south on the eastern side? How odd.

Just because there is vacant space, doesn't mean that the vacant space works for all possible users of the space

Fantastic pictures. Regarding the growth pattern of the city. Something that is interesting to me is how big the city was in the mid 19th century. There couldn't have been many cities over 100K back then...

From a population stand point, all of the steel areas saw big population drops in the 80s (and really before and after it), but I think that the Steubenville area (where I grew up) and Wheeling metros had 2 of the 3 biggest % population losses of the 80s. No doubt that Youngstown got hit hard, but the smaller the area the more dependent it was on the industry.

I'm not sure about that. I mean, you have the ignorant sport fan types in Pittsburgh, just like other places that dump on a rival city in hyperbole, but I have seen Clevelanders make silly derogatory Appalachian comments. That said, I think Pittsburgh tends to have more of the Philly type ugliness at times. I'm sure many of have seen similar Cleveland and Cincy. All are great cities with their own idiosyncrasies etc.

I think it's more than media - it was a real bottom. Even though it was already suffering with manufacturing losses in the 70s, Pittsburgh had the steel industry essentially collapse in the 80s. It was devastating. On a small scale, Youngstown, Steubenville, and Wheeling got hit really hard too.

Finally some real plans for the old arena site. I think that it looks great in many ways and a nice addition. My main concern would be on street level. Designers, architects unveil plans for Lower Hill District redevelopment http://www.post-gazette.com/business/development/2015/11/18/Bjarke-Ingels-Group-designers-architects-unveil-plan-for-Pittsburgh-Lower-Hill-District-old-Civic-Arena-site/stories/201511180202

Exclusive: 650-apartment complex planned in Lawrenceville http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/blog/the-next-move/2015/08/650-apartment-complex-planned-lawrenceville.html

It's sad, such stores are becoming a novelty. The retail landscape is changing. As someone who still collects music, this is old news, but sad nonetheless.

Washington PA and a few other county seats like Greensburg, east of Pittsburgh have small city populations, but are really bigger (I say this in relative terms as the surrounding population makes them more like cities a couple times bigger, but that's still small of course)

It's suburban in its footprint coupled with its height.