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No doubt. St. Ignatius and CVCA are consistently 2 of the top soccer programs in the nation. Don’t forget about University of Akron. They are among the elite college programs.

That's not exactly a convenient location...at least not in my biased west side mind.

I’m sure it would. That’s where the City Stars used to play. It’s a very photogenic looking spot on tv, great views of downtown.

That's actually not awful. Wish it was in the city proper but there are several walkable bars there. Indeed it would be wise for the Club to reach out to McGintys or bottlehouse (plenty of room) for some kind of official partnership.

Actually I much prefer the approach Univision has taken with their sports show. Just having the beautiful women standing around in soccer jerseys. It’s refreshing that they simply do away with the mirage of any semblance of journalistic pretenses. Also agree that it’s stupid that successful coaches are elevated to the level of near-genius. Yes, Bill Belichik is probably smart. But he’s not splitting the atom or anything.

I think it's important to compare and contrast other waterfronts to gauge what can and should happen in Cleveland. Capping proposals in Cincy and projets in places like Chicago and Baltimore help to provide context.

AG had been on a hiring freeze. Now we know why.

Was going to say this exactly.

They're not talking about young up-and-comers. At a certain point in life, when one's earnings have probably peaked, affordable and convenient starts to matter a whole lot more than dense and vibrant. Those are the people who are moving. Yeah, if you see the article I posted earlier they quoted a retired industrial worker who was going back to Tennessee, her original home. She didn't seem like the kind of person who would value urban amenities anyhow. The article also tried to blame rising crime and certain liberal policies as causing the out-migration, which sounded forced. More like a manufactured case of sour grapes resentment to me.

San Francisco Bay Area Experiences Mass Exodus Of Residents By Len Ramirez The number of people packing up and moving out of the Bay Area just hit its highest level in more than a decade. Carole Dabak spent 40 years living in San Jose and now she’s part of the mass exodus that is showing no signs of slowing down. The retired engineer’s packing up and calling it quits about to move to the state of Tennessee. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/02/08/san-francisco-bay-area-mass-exodus-residents/ Nationwide, the cities with the highest inflows, according to Redfin are Phoenix, Las Vegas, Atlanta, and Nashville.

That would be awesome. Some Ingenuity pics: https://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/heres-what-you-missed-from-days-two-and-three-of-ingenuity-fest/Slideshow/3661924

If I didn't know any better I'd assume they lived in Newport, KY.

Why do you think that? What is the appeal of living next to a stadium? I'm thinking they could take some cues from Wrigleyville. The stadium is obviously an asset. How does the structure and the visiting crowds positively interact with the neighborhood?

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Better access to and improved walkability within the district needs to happen. The Rock Hall and Science Center need some thoughtful redesign to attract and engage people outside of the venues. Right now, they are separate suburban islands with no rational pedestrian flow. To spur growth right away a large DIY warehouse type space could house art/cultural and music exhibits. If anyone recalls Ingenuity Fest on the lake you have seen what happens when you give people more good reasons to reach the waterfront. Instant vibrancy. It's not rocket science. Traditional retail and residential should follow. But limited in the extent that private development does not eclipse public enjoyment of the space. This is a sometimes delicate balance of virtually every coastal city, in fact I have no faith the city is capable of achieving this without some agreed upon, extra level of zoning. Cleveland doesn't have an "it" place where everyone just goes. NCH should be that place.

I am told by a contractor friend that today's bricks wouldn't be able to handle conditions as well. Apparently the old method of making them created a more durable product.

You are concentrating on what it's like now instead of what it can and should be.

No need to apologize, I mean, I'm interested in hearing what you guys think we can do. I have some things I do, like try and support small bars and restaurants in my immediate hood. I'm intrigued at the idea of starting a mini CDC for the neighborhood, and starting a community newsletter (print!). At the very least it could help build more sense of community.

I don't want to discount the obvious necessity for drawing new business. But that top-down approach relies on people like Kasich, Cranley in Cincy or Jackson in Cleveland...in other words, there's not much optimism. I'm interested in things that normal people can do on the ground level to create the change.

When we drove through Nashville we had a modest plan: to watch some live music and get late dinner someplace. We drove through downtown past all of the super crowded bridesmaid bars and clubs, past all the nearly complete condo highrises, then past all the hockey fans until found this awesome little spot with live bluegrass called the Station Inn. After a few pitchers of beer and some incredible music we grabbed a few more pitchers and very good pizza at this late late night joint outside the city called Mafiaozas. The next time I drove through Nashville, same exact plan. Same result...a great night. Now I've always hated the idea of Nashville because I hate the country music industry. I know the music scene down there is much more well-rounded now, which makes it less corporate. I don't know, but there's some reason the city managed to steal the Black Keys from Akron and Jack White from Detroit.

Bingo.

This building could be described as adorable. Wish it was still around.

Who, Stephen Curry? Booo!

I'd bet the return on investment per city dollar is much higher on the river than it would be at the stadium-E9th-Burke lakefront. It's not too late to increase the density in FEB. If true, this is only because the Cleveland lakefront is a bizarro world. By all means it should be incredibly attractive real estate with developers climbing all over themselves. Yet the city can't or won't summon the willpower to provide enough enough access. It's frustrating. If the city did nothing but simply provide access and something of a subdivided plan with a grid layout and public easements to the water, I believe we would then see real, organic growth. Sounds good, but where would this new grid go? And what kind of access would be needed, that we don't have now? Well, as far as access to the lakefront? The disconnect from everything else is psychological and physical. It cannot accommodate a lot of auto traffic in a functional manner, nor is it welcoming to cyclists or pedestrians. I'd vote StrapHanger for Mayor on his Shoreway policy alone. It's a fixable situation, certainly, but I'm just as certain I won't live long enough to see it actually happen. I know it's near pipe dream level, but the land bridge idea that brings the malls right to NCH is what Cleveland deserves. Just like we've been seeing with the Towpath, the bridge would do wonders for reinvigorating the lakefront. You bring more people into the equation and provide opportunity it would be like magic. I'm not sure what context the street grid should appear, beyond my pay grade. But just as the California Coastal Commission works to ensure that buildings don't block too much sunlight, or water views, or impede public access to the water, we can enact the same type of government body here to ensure that future development is in kind and character with what we our waterfront district to be.

Yeah. I know it's not as simple as just throwing a roof on the structure. But one can envision more use for the stadium, as is the case with Lucas Oil Field. Actually IIRC the Browns signaled they could partner with the Clinic to make sports training/health and wellness a focus of the lakefront. Another plan in the pile of many that went nowhere. But I could totally picture that working out.