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Here's their website. Not sure what kind of reaction this is getting. http://www.nomorebarsinbirdtown.com/2014/05/open-letter-to-birdtown/ READ AN OPEN LETTER TO THE PARENTS AND RESIDENTS OF BIRDTOWN » MAY 14, 2014 SITE ADMIN Dear Parents and Residents of Birdtown, As you may have heard, the city is considering allowing a bar to move in the old St Gregory’s Byzantine Catholic Church on the corner of Quail and Thrush, which by the way is directly adjacent to Harrison Elementary School. We are gravely concerned that money has taken priority over public safety and security of your children. With a bar being located on a residential street, there will be an increase of delivery traffic, and even worse, people driving under the influence of alcohol. How can any amount of money heal the injured, bring back the departed, or restore families shattered by alcohol? While the bar states the hours of operation will begin at 4pm, children will still be living and playing in the neighborhood. Will your child be one of them playing in the front yard or riding their bikes in the street as drunk drivers cruise by? Will your children be playing when the next bar fight spills out into the residential street? Will your children be playing outside when someone comes into the bar to rob it and pulls a gun and shots are fired just like it happened at the TREEHOUSE BAR in Tremont. (The proposed bar owner, also owns the TREEHOUSE BAR in Tremont)? Where will you park when you get home from a long day at work? Will there be any spots available for you and your family? Will you have to park further away and put your family at greater risk because you have to walk further to get to your house? We must stand, we must use common sense and say enough is enough, Birdtown has enough bars already. But to put a bar in the middle of a residential neighborhood just doesn’t make sense, it only promises to make money. Yet… It is statistically proven that when alcohol is brought into a community, the community experiences more crime, more noise and more trouble (recent WHO report worldwide). Birdtown is not perfect, but it is not “infested with crime” as the bar developers have stated. On the contrary, it’s a vibrant, ethnically-diverse and “up and coming” neighborhood. Our own councilwoman, Mary Louise Madigan, was quoted as saying so on Cleveland.com. Wouldn’t common sense dictate that another bar isn’t an appropriate way to stay on that track? Will you take stand for this community and for the children of Birdtown? Please come to the next City of Lakewood Planning Commission Meeting (MAP) on June 5th at 7pm and let your voice be heard.

For the record, the Church next to the proposed Microbrewery are fighting this. They are making some pretty ridiculous and frankly even reckless comments to drum up opposition.

Main reason why they have to bring those pavers all the way through the Square, and not just in the middle.

Enough of this meaningless drivel. What's the plan of attack for the UO party that will help commemorate this great project??

Another good point you bring up; the design elements seem simple, yet comfortable and fully functional. The empty grass fields in the current plan that look nice in renderings could be meaningless, unutilized space for most of the year.

Right. Which is one of the many reason's why we should have simply pointed our fingers at Bryant Park, and told the Powers That Be to just "do that." Would've been so easy, and it could have saved the public how much in consulting fees lol.

Absolutely. And they've managed to create an enjoyable environment that serves all four seasons. http://missbinnyc.blogspot.com/2010/12/fire-pit.html This could work so well for PS, especially considering the foot traffic going through there day after day.

Because retail = life. And retail owners = stakeholders in making sure the areas are clean, welcoming and overall attractive. Not only that, the leasing generates actual revenues for managing maintenance. It just makes so much sense. I'd encourage you (and everyone) if you're unfamiliar to image search for Bryant Park in NYC to see such a great mix of retail livelihood and serene greenspace. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/11/26/arts/27spare/articleLarge.jpg

^ Very cool I'm sending that around!

I don't think they need to have more dedicated retail/food within the square itself. It's a small enough space that you could line the square with more quality retail in the existing buildings that surround PS. Whatever new construction happens to close the gaping west section of the Square, we can all hope that it's the opposite of the vibrancy-killers that currently exist. And yes the existing buildings that can - should retrofit somehow if at all possible. Best case (aka dream) scenario is a diverse and continuous shopping district that filters through and beyond both out and along the river and also PS side of Tower City that connects Euclid Ave, Warehouse, FEB, etc.

I don't think they need to have more dedicated retail/food within the square itself. It's a small enough space that you could line the square with more quality retail in the existing buildings that surround PS. Whatever new construction happens to close the gaping west section of the Square, we can all hope that it's the opposite of the vibrancy-killers that currently exist. And yes the existing buildings that can - should retrofit somehow if at all possible. Best case (aka dream) scenario is a diverse and continuous shopping district that filters through and beyond both the river and PS side of Tower City.

What is also intriguing is the very bad smell emanating from this building. What in the world are they doing lol. It's like they're uncovering more and more "must" and there's a neverending supply.

I am wondering what the long term strategy is for parking on both sides of the river. Even something similar to the West Side Market mixed use TOD guideline plan would make us feel a lot better.

Neat. Pardon my ignorance, but is Millenium Park anything like Public Square? I've never been. But I have heard that the Mall could be our version of it someday. Speaking of art installations, I'd say PS is ripe for something interesting. The renderings look nice but sort of bland.

--more retail space available...one cafe is not going to cut it (long lines!) and competition and variety and more leasing is a good thing. --use quality pavers on the entire stretch of Superior to better define the "square" --though the ice rink is cool, the water park is much better suited for the sunnier and roomier mall What do you guys think?

From what I can recall, there's some ADA concerns about fully opening it up to the public.

Two of the major "problems" with marijiana, the idea that is a "gateway drug" and the fact that you don't always know exactly what you are getting, are actually a product of its illegality, not of the drug itself. Absolutely.

That's what the sign said, but I can't help but think of the "remodeling" or "reopening soon" kinda signs I've seen over the years where nothing ever happened. I liked them too. Well, I didn't like their hours.

I was there @ ABC during Hessler Street Fair. Waited at the bar for maybe 10 minutes and though it wasn't crowded, I never got any service from either of the bartenders. I thought to myself that would never happen on W 25th...shoulda knew something was up.

Paul do you have any idea how or if they are going to incorporate the downstairs?

Nah, just build more of 'em, this time on north side of Lake to replace those el cheapo ranch houses. Well, that I will support.

Why...why did you have to tell me this? Anyhow, I'll check UO later after I JOIN THE TEA PARTY.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess the answers are Yes to all your questions. Now I kinda want to know just how much these doomed trees are costing us. Actually, no I don't want to know...

^ the proverbial diamond in the rough!!!

Sure that's the busy side of the road for the commute downtown. I'm definitely psyched to hear about these expansion and reno plans!!