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87.7 was too trapped in the past. It's unfortunate a rock station that plays new music is such a rarity these days. At least we still have some decent college radio.

Just found this. Comments section is full of ignorance. Move Silicon Valley to Cleveland It’s time for tech hubs to go where they’re welcome. By Matthew Yglesias http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/the_next_silicon_valley/2013/12/move_silicon_valley_america_needs_a_tech_hub_in_a_place_where_it_s_welcome.html

Oh man, my wife had so many students where unbelievably the parent or grandparent told them that, being black, they didn't have a chance to make it in society.

If this CHMA property is indeed as valuable as some believe it is, wouldn't it theoretically make sense for CHMA to sell?

The things I love about Florida are the beaches, bays and backwaters, the everglades....the man made stuff, not so much.

^ Speaking for those of us who took the bar exam in that building, this is the best news ever. Fourteen years later and my stomach still gets sick when see that place.

Agree and want to add that we also have this lake just north of us. Once we can figure out what to do with it there's every reason to think it will be a huge draw.

^^ good news!!!

I'm not in agreement with your take on this. I've always understood that his reluctance to move downtown had much more to do with the era of political dysfunction more than anything else. The issue with parking could've been easily resolved. They're related. I'm not the one who brought up parking, but it ties into other things I've heard. Specifically, that Lewis's intent, if he decided to move downtown, was to build a self contained unit which included integral parking that would be free for employees. That's how Progressive's buildings in the suburbs are. Now, I don't have to explain to anyone that Mike White was very close to a number of the parking lot operators, do I? They didn't like this idea very much and they exerted influence against it. The city, of course, had pay lots too. White went along and played hardball on the issue. Some of it was concealed with the sort of urbanist rhetoric concerning separation we heard about the skywalks, how sincere that was is left up to the opinion of the reader. But...it put back into place one of the objections to the move that Progressive employees had that Lewis had found a way around. They underestimated both the objections to paying to park the employees had (seriously....a lot of us see it as completely unnatural for anything other than special events) and the weight Lewis (and Lerner) assigned this. Plus, there was Progressive's insular culture, which was why the project was to include " an art museum, a creativity center, a health club and a research center", plus numerous cafeterias and restaurants likely to only be open to Progressive employees and their guests. For bleeps sake, the man all but encouraged interoffice relationships... So yeah, he had a contentious relationship with the White Administration, they were both hardheaded leaders who believed in "my way or the highway". The highway turned out to be 271. What you're suggesting relationship issues may be true. It indeed sounds plausible and it's what I've been hearing for years from friends who work at Progressive. My objection is your framing the White Admin and parking lot barons as "urbanists."

^ Props for, ya know, actually trying to do something when it's much easier just to complain on this forum lol.

Yes I've read it. The statement provided "business decision..." provides no insight and we're still stuck with years of hearsay (ie contentious relationship with White Admin) to go by. My point is that Erocc's attempt to frame the issue as between PBL vs. "urbanists" is off the mark. Calling the politicians dealing with Progressive "urbanists" is too much of a stretch.

I'm not in agreement with your take on this. I've always understood that his reluctance to move downtown had much more to do with the era of political dysfunction more than anything else. The issue with parking could've been easily resolved.

^ Perhaps Positively Cleveland could be a good source for contacts?

Absolutely. This should be the long term plan.

Which underscores my contention about their lack of imagination. If a sports-talker can't fill time in a market with three major league sports teams, a top national sports program (OSU) just down the road, tons of frequently NCAA-contending MAC sports teams around and numerous state-title-contending high school programs in the area, he probably doesn't deserve to be on the air. Great point KJP. And there is almost never any discussion of hockey or soccer, which would be nice just to have just for a little change of pace.

Right, blank walls are momentum killers. This has to be corrected somehow.

Very very cool!!!!

Art project - you got my vote. One thing that makes the Justice Center so unwelcoming is the Ungodly sound of their HVAC systems, most noticeably heard on St. Clair. Really, it sounds like a thousand demons trying to escape the bounds of hell.

Ha ha, are you Ken Lanci?

Correct, it could be more of a fan rivalry. Unlike with MLS the Cosmos have no salary cap so the sky is the limit. They could theoretically build a stellar team, maybe the best in the US. Playing without the restrictions governing MLS puts them in an interesting position.

^ Congrats Orlando. BTW It would be nice to see the NY Cosmos can get a really interesting rivalry going with NYC FC and Red Bull.

I gotta say I'm really won over by the latest renderings. I'd still like to see something additional on the roof to balance out the bold curvature. Something like this:

Agreed this design is much much better than the tube.

^ note the stark difference in roof design from pic 1 (impressive!) and pic 2 (not-so-great).

Wow this place went up fast!