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As someone who went to Ohio State, they definitely do not get much coverage in Cincinnati. Much of it is due to the local and other regional schools, but the tell-tale sign is the amount of coverage in the sports page. Take a look at the city papers around the state on a football Saturday, and that will tell you how much support there is. Personally, I don't care what he said, but of course a huge deal is made of it. I certainly would not have expected Chris Spielman to suddenly become a Michigan fan because he played for the Lions.

Of course the ACS also says the city population has gone from 331,000 to 302,000, while the census estimates it has gone from 331,000 to 332,000. Remember also, that this comparison is starting at 1950, and while the population did not change from much from 1950 to 1960 the makeup probably did some. 1950 503998 1960 502550 1970 452524 1980 385457 1990 364040 2000 331285 2007 332458 Interestingly, from its peak the city basically lost 117,000 in the 20 years from 1960 to 1980. This is when the most drastic changes in population and makeup likely occurred. In the 27 years since the city has lost 53,000 with the estimates showing the population as leveling off. It seems to have stabilized and hopefully the estimates will be confirmed in the census. Although the percentages will change slightly the makeup will probably be similar to what it is now. I have just not seen a breakdown for the estimate of 332458. Also, for one of the first boomtowns to retain 65% of its peak population, boundaries unchanged, is not bad relatively speaking.

That would be awesome if we could get a Tier I event on the women's side. Earlier it was mentioned that the men's tournament is a Premier event. This is actually part of the Masters Series, one of the 9 tournaments just below the four majors: http://masters-series.com/ Indian Wells Miami Monte-Carlo Rome Hamburg Toronto Cincinnati Madrid Paris I am not sure if it is still this way, but the top 20 players have historically been required to play 8 of the 9 each year, which is why we get such good fields. Normally we see 18 of the top 20, and at least a couple of times we have seen them all. This will be my 9th year in a row going to the Saturday night semi, which is always a good time.

I drove by on the way home from work and now that it is being demolished you can really see that this was a pretty massive garage. Great to see progress!

She does not - she was with a company for awhile and has been on her own for the past 8 or so years.

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I am not sure why you are so concerned over a movie (and a mockumentary at that) set in Cincinnati. Why do you care? Again, I will reserve judgment until I hear or see more, but clearly as a satirical look at the game I have no problems with it. If it does poke fun at Cincinnati I am confident most people will understand the humor (I understand the cast is local, but I am not sure if the characters are supposed to be - there is a difference). I am definitely not with you on Cincinnati having a hillbilly stereotype, especially on a national stage, which tends to assign this to more southern and rural areas. More than anything the stereotype would be conservative. Quite honestly, from a national standpoint Ohio is Ohio (although northern Ohio might have more of the rust belt image), and most have not heard the Ohio River Valley. The perspective presented seems colored with personal opinion and self-doubt in Ohio's perception. This is a supposed to be funny, not a sociological study. Unbelievable. And to belabor the point on what has become a wearisome thread a little more, the movie idea was shopped to studios and not picked up. The creator made this as an independent film, and is now shopping it around again. Predicting this film to not get picked up is in no way a sign of Hollywood expertise, and probably the safe bet as most independent movies do not make it. More impressive would be the ability to predict which independents do get studio backing.

My brother-in-law was there recently, and he said it looked like subdivions of skyscrapers going up in places. NBC just did a story tonight - I think they want to invest 270 billion in the next 5 years alone. It is indeed crazy.

I am watching the preview in the link, and I suspect the movie will not put too much of a negative light on the city as the creator is a native. My response was to your statement of what you thought were classic stereotypes of Cincinnati, and I was having difficulty comprehending it from someone from Toledo - I mean I have been there twice. The movie is indeed a mockumentary so your comparison does not really make sense. It supposedly follows 4 teams on their way to the championship in Cincy so I am not sure all if any of them are supposed to be local. If it does make fun of locals so what - that is part of being a mocumentary. I guess we'll see if it gets picked up or at least on DVD. Forgive me if I have trouble trusting your opinion on how the movie business works as I just don't see the credentials. We don't have to agree though. ^They apparently did sign Hudy Delight as a sponsor for some authenticity with product placement, which is funny in and of itself.

I am surprised you have to ask, but it is indeed a mockumentary. This is more of a "Best in Show" as opposed to "Dodgeball", and is intentionally over the top. I am not sure of your classic stereotypes of Cincinnati, but you cannot seem to get off of the city's ass, and I am continually amazed by the condescending opinions of someone from Toledo....really?

This could have gone under the youtube thread or Hollywood name drops Cincinnati, but I thought such a prestigious piece of work deserved its own thread. This actually looks like it might be funny - hopefully a studio picks it up. This game is really spreading now - I was on the Delaware shore last week and there were kids playing with Rutgers and George Mason boards: I guess I need to learn how to post a youtube link - just search for Cornhole: The Movie.

^^ No kidding - I usually skip over the posts as they are either about getting drunk (and possibly a fight) or somehow explaining why good news for Cincinnati is really bad. Not that getting drunk is always a bad thing... In the meantime it is very nice to see a positive headline in the Enquirer in regard to the city proper population. It is also interesting to see that some cities that have annexed land/merged with their home county have really slowed in growth, which shows that unless cities keep annexing new land they will eventually see slow, no, or negative growth as well. It is only a matter of time. Jacksonville might be safe for awhile as they seem to have one of the most ridiculous boundaries of all, 885 square miles. Additionally, and what I think is more important is that even if the population is off the trend is very small growth, which is much better than a rapid decline. I think we can assume at least the trends are close.

Who cares about the museum? I wonder if Ohio offered anything, but being a border city I think we need to get more assistance from Columbus to compete. Again, as a whole this will probably cost the region tax dollars because Kentucky probably offered a lot of breaks to get them to move (another case of cannibalizing existing business). And of course the media will play this up, with no mention of NKY's 32% vacancy rate for their office space or the fact that Comair is cutting 500 jobs. Just a little venting....

Number 17 is a cool shot - we don't see enough of the accordion side of the Macy's building. I sometimes think it would have been better if they had turned the entire building around.

Good news - I saw this article as well, and I am not sure if it will add any jobs. What it will do, though, is secure the HQ of the current employees and make it a more well known company in the future.

Gotcha and thanks for the clarification.

Doesn't this seem strange? DHL basically sold their US hub to Airborne and now DHL worldwide is no longer going to use them. I must be missing something with the relationship between DHL and Airborne when the DHL hub moved. Airborne already had a big operation before this was added so I am surprised at such an extreme impact to the overall operation.

That first photo is pretty amazing - I stayed downtown in 1990 and it probably has 3 times the number of high rises now. I have not really seen it up close recently as we pretty much go straight to South Beach when we visit. I love all of these aerial photos by the way.

I thought there was a story that the nameless one was going to be smaller than originally planned, making more room for more office development. I would not be sad if it does not get built at all though.

Moth is very good, but I am not sure if they are still together. Their song "I See Sound" made it onto alt charts, and I wore out the CD "Provisions, Fiction, and Gear" a few months ago after a neighbor reminded me of the band and lent me the CD. BTW, since Heartless Bastards are already well known in indie circuit I would say Bad Veins are next Cincy band to break out. They have a little bit of a Killers/Strokes thing going without sounding too contrived. I think they were at this year's SXSW.

I can see your sentiment, but what the approach has done is cost everyone more to do business. You now consistently see businesses pit states against each other - this was not because Ohio had a certain corporate tax rate, but because Kentucky was offering tax breaks. In the end, although downtown has obviously kept most of the companies, those companies generate less tax revenue. Same thing goes for a business that is charged half the rent to move - the owner sees less revenue. This is my opinion, but I just don't view NKY as stepping in to save something that will either leave or not happen if they don't.

I still say in general NKY does not act or think regionally, they are thinking of what is best for them. Didn't Newport approach the developer about moving the aquarium from the riverfront? Where was Hofbrauhaus going until they were contacted again and again? When Findlay Market was having trouble negotiating with some tenants, didn't Callery try to talk them into going to Covington? When the Blue Wisp was moving who tried to get them to move there? When the city started talking about getting the USS Cincinnati, didn't Newport put together an effort to get it? And whenever any downtown company looks for new space who consistently tries to lure them with tax incentives? Hey Reading already has a wedding district, let's put one in Covington. I just don't think it is a good idea to pay extra to try to get something already in the region or simply copy what is already here. On the other hand if a developer wants to build a condo on the river or if NKY attracts a new company to the region such as Ashland great.

This specific situation is not a big deal at all, it just seems there is a lack of original thought. I would also put an NBA arena in Covington right now if the region could lure a team - what I would not do is originally have a plan for the arena to be downtown then have someone contact the potential team on the side and try to talk them into locating in Covington instead, setting off a bidding war - there is a difference.

This example just solidifies why I get irritated with Northern Kentucky sometimes - the leaders talk about regionalism when it is convenient, but they have consistently tried to poach attractions and development (I think many of us know the laundry list) from downtown and when they have not been able to they try to copy what is already there (e.g. first they wanted to steal Findlay Market vendors then they wanted to create their own). If it is something completely new, different, and originally drawn there more power to them. I recall recently Cincinnati actually endorsed the Covington IRS center and lobbied the federal government to keep that site opened. On the other hand when Convergys was looking for a new home NKY was more than happy to throw tons of incentives to try to lure the operation away from downtown, making it more expensive to keep the HQ downtown. I think you will find most people have their negative view of NKY based in examples like this.

^^ I have said many times I am not regular listener of Cunningham, but it seems if you randomly check on his show he spends a lot of time bashing downtown. It makes you really wonder what his ultimate goal is - I mean he is obviously a ratings whore, and when he isn't off on some overzealous right-wing rant the city bears the brunt of his idiocy. You would think at some point, even as a resident of Indian Hill, he would have some pride in or desire for the city to be successful. Yet he never says anything positive about Downtown, or most of the city for that matter. He has been a scourge on the collective psyche of many in the region as they continue to buy into his words as though they were gospel. And while a lot of people read through his tired schtick, it angers me because people who believe everything he says do have an impact on the city.