Ethan

Where exactly are people assuming/proposing the dividing line be? Just looking at it, it seems like the line aught to be roughly Forest Hill Ave/Terrace Rd, with perhaps some minor deviations. Basically drawing a line from the edge of the Cemetery/Park. Is that about what everyone else is assuming or am I way off base? Also, I think the political issue is less about precedence, and more about the Republicans having little to gain politically from rectifying the situation. Combined with the fact that it would almost certainly be messy, there's little incentive for current political leaders to overcome the inertia of the status quo and do the right thing.

Thanks! I didn't see/follow the links, I appreciate you doing the digging! Wow! Reading through those is painful. The level of dysfunction is absurd. Hopefully this can get resolved amicably for the sake of the people of East Cleveland, apologies sent, etc. The park will benefit the residents of the East Cleveland who can't be wholly blamed for the incompetence of their elected representatives.

I agree, but this is just sad... The Metroparks management would have really benefited that area. It could have perhaps been the first step in a long turnaround process. I'm just sad and annoyed that political dysfunction is keeping a good thing from happening. It seems like the downward spiral of East Cleveland hasn't yet leveled off. Here's hoping for a takeover or a more effective local government... Edit: also, I was able to read the article. I can't help but wonder about the truth of the situation, and where the money went. I'm certainly inclined to side with the Metroparks over East Cleveland. I'm sure the Metroparks didn't lose the money, and if East Cleveland sent the money through the proper channels then there would have been no issues. Either East Cleveland is dysfunctional because they sent the money through the wrong channels or some members of government are malicious or corrupt. I don't think any other options are particularly likely.

Does anyone know what's going on with the waterfront line today? Just snapped a few quick pics as I was walking past, didn't have time to investigate. Edit: also just noticed that streetlight, ....ugh, smh.

Cool video about a neighborhood near Guatemala city and how it was designed using the principles from both classical architecture as well as urbanism. I think this relatively new channel is BY FAR the best urbanism channel on YouTube, and that's saying something given their rapidly increasing number.

I came across a cool video about a neighborhood in Guatemala that I wanted to share, but I didn't see an appropriate thread to do so. Mods feel free to rename if Central America is too large of an area.

The above post says the proposal draws a lot of inspiration from Michigan's procedure. Here's an approachable explanation of how it works in Michigan. https://eu.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2021/03/28/how-michigans-redistricting-process-work-and-how-get-involved/4700107001/ Overall looks pretty good, I have many minor quibbles, but I can't come up with a reasonable argument of how it could be considered worse than the current system, so I'd vote for it. My biggest concern with any kind of system like this, is how it could be captured by malign interests (think organized crime, but it needn't be quite so explicitly criminal), so I think the selection process is paramount. It looks like a pretty good setup, and one that would be hard to institutionally capture, but that is far and away my biggest concern, and I hope appropriate thought has been given to that concern.

Amid lease talks, Cleveland to sign off on $3.4M in repairs to Browns Stadium "...the $3.4 million expense, which was approved by City Council’s Committee of the Whole on Wednesday, is not part of that potential deal. Instead, it’s mandated under the terms of the current lease with the team from 1998, which requires the city to cover capital repairs at the stadium. The full council is expected to approve the money later on Wednesday. The sum includes $2.6 million to replace pedestrian ramps, and $550,000 to replace gutters – both deemed to be “emergency” repairs. It also includes about $300,000 for air-conditioning repairs in the stadium’s IT room, Mayor’s Office of Capital Projects Director James DeRosa told council." https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2023/08/amid-lease-talks-cleveland-to-sign-off-on-34m-in-repairs-to-browns-stadium.html Looks like some routine repairs to Browns stadium. (Costing taxpayer money). Some speculation about more substantial future stadium repairs/build, nothing new though.

That's extremely plausible given the Metroparks plans for the Catanese Seafood site. The agenda doesn't state their intent for these parcels yet though. Personally I'd like a large half peninsula size park, but I think that's the minority opinion here (I'm just a big fan of parks).. Edit: Here's the relevant portion of the agenda in case anyone wants to speculate based on their verbage.

Several interesting developments in this months Metroparks agenda.

The Metroparks are commiting to putting $2,800,000 for the Cheers project as part of a 20% local match portion of the funding.

From this month's agenda, the Metroparks is committing up to $5,000,000 for the Lakefront bikeway. This is primarily, if not exclusively, coming from the Mandel gift.

Big update in tomorrow's board meeting agenda for the Cleveland Metroparks. The Metroparks have agreed to purchase the Graincraft property for $3,500,000. This isn't a surprising development and it has been guessed by a few board members already. Personally I'm happy with this development. I'd like to see what the Metroparks can do with this area. Both park areas they are attempting to connect are subpar currently in my opinion, hopefully they are improved in this transformation. Hopefully this will include several road closures. If nothing else, this development virtually guarantees continuous riverfront boardwalk/trails from settlers landing to the Foundry. Additionally Catanese seafood property is currently under contract, but will be leased back to the current owners till May 15th 2024.

I think it's more likely people who support some abortion access, but less than this amendment allows, will choose to abstain from the vote, rather than voting it down. I doubt it will be 10, or even 6%, of the electorate though.

It is, I'm pretty sure that to the powers that be insulating the highway from the waves is far and away the primary purpose of this project, building the park is merely a secondary benefit. Now, to me, and I assume @Ineffable_Matt, the park is the primary benefit. The highway should never have been built there in the first place.

I wouldn't go so far as a waste, but it's certainly a missed opportunity. As @ASP1984says it can always be done later. I just hope people don't look at the Cheers project and say "good enough, no need to move the highway." The combination of Cheers and the Green Ribbon Coalition's proposal would be a truly fantastic lakefront park, probably better than Edgewater.

Or... Opt for the Green Ribbon Coalition's proposal and move the highway south uniting Gordon park.

There was some work going on at the Ontario end of Eagle Ave bridge this morning. Not sure what. No picture as I was driving.

While I don't think the revised plan looks as good from a bird's eye view. I think it's very possible it will be a better experience at ground level. I particularly like the added width north of the marina. The island not being a true island is a bit of a mixed bag. I think I prefer the beefier island from the original design, but hopefully the slightly smaller version means it can get finished sooner. New: Old:

I can understand your perspective, but I just can't see the logic to the middle ground of preserving the building but knocking down the smokestack. Either knock the whole thing down and start fresh, or keep the building as is, smokestack and all, and engage in a cool, adaptive reuse. I'm fine with either option, I just don't think there's any point to reusing the building if you are going to get rid of the building's most distinctive feature. Personally I think one of the cool aspects of adaptive reuse is having to make creative use of an unusual feature. While I don't have the genius idea, I think there has to be cool ways for a smokestack to look interesting and unique (rope lighting? Idk, but I'm sure a local artist could come up with something cool and distinctive).

Really? If they keep the building I hope they keep the smokestack. It's the most distinctive feature, and a cool nod to its past industrial use.

The color scheme on that map makes it nearly illegible. Plus it really should be percentage based for the point you're trying to make.

Interestingly (and perhaps not surprisingly) the current results map looks a bit like the typical election map from back when Ohio was a purple bell whether. Not exactly though, the showing in Columbus, Cincy, and Dayton suburbs is stronger. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/08/issue-1-ohio-results-abortion/70555725007/ https://decisiondeskhq.com/election-results-ohio-issue-1-and-the-mississippi-primary/

I don't think you can, I'm pretty sure the new owners (fancy dress shop) are appointment only. I toured there when looking for an apartment. Cool lobby.

So what are the current odds that this project falls through post demolition and we end up with another large surface parking lot? The continued discussion of funding gaps isn't giving me warm fuzzy feelings.