Ethan

Yeah, measuring city population is at least somewhat arbitrary no matter how you do it. City boundaries are highly arbitrary, and county boundaries (and thus MSA) boundaries are still somewhat arbitrary. Which is why my preferred method is census defined urban areas (which is arguably the least arbitrary). This method has Cleveland as the largest city in Ohio by a hair.

Does new apartments include building office to residential conversions, or is it only talking about new builds?

Moving this Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Renovation discussion here since it is construction related.

It's an improvement over the last design. I wonder if they have given any thought to how this would/could interact with any potential land bridge proposal. There's a lot of potential for synergy between the two ideas, so I hope that is being considered and that backroom talks are taking place. Should this conversation be in the development forum? It's definitely construction related. @KJPI'm looking forward to the NeoTrans article on this, which I'm sure will be superior to Cleveland.com

More City Club Apts.

Clark Field upgrades.

Abbey Ave apartments.

I agree with most of this, and think there's a lot of wisdom in it. There is one area though where I think there's a necessary role for centralized city planning, and that is in determining where NOT to develop. I.e. which areas to retain for public parks. Lakefront development (Burke closure, port relocation, etc) will be Cleveland's last opportunity to create a large, contiguous park near the downtown core. Our own version of Grant park. That opportunity will never reemerge if we let this one pass. Here's hoping city leaders have the foresight to see this opportunity for what it is.

I'm still massively pro land bridge. Even if we remove the shoreway you still have to deal with the railroad tracks. (6 tracks!) We also have three malls going to nowhere. A landbridge solves both of these problems in one stroke, while also creating a pedestrian "green corridor" from PS, our main transit hub, and to our strongest tourist draw. This project also has a lot of synergy with the riverfront proposal as both are creating pedestrian corridors from PS to the water. Building both doubles the usefulness of this "green corridor." I guess in theory you achieve the same goal with a pedestrian bridge, but in the same way as bus rapid transit achieves the same goal as a subway. Sometimes it's worth it to pull the lever for the bigger, better solution.

Moving components are generally (much) more expensive than non-moving components, so I would assume the opposite, but this isn't my area of expertise either.

Cross posted in Tower City/Riverview thread

Cross posted in the important meetings thread.

"COLUMBUS, Ohio—A proposal to enshrine abortion rights in the Ohio Constitution took another step on Monday, clearing the way for supporters to collect the 400,000-plus voter signatures needed to place the measure on the November ballot. The bipartisan Ohio Ballot Board unanimously voted Monday that the proposed amendment contains only a single subject. Under Ohio law, a proposed amendment cannot contain more than one constitutional amendment." https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/03/proposed-ohio-abortion-rights-constitutional-amendment-passes-another-hurdle.html

I saw this video last night, and I think it merits discussion. Or at least some extra love to what appears to be a new YouTube channel making quality content. The video argues for a psychological basis for beauty, rather than a merely subjective concept. I find his argument fascinating and compelling, as well as research based. While obviously beauty is partially subjective, I agree that a large degree of it can be reasonably thought of as objective within a human context. Curious to hear other people's thoughts!

It's in the same state of limbo it's been in for a while. A little less than half full up. Lots of small shops, few big stores with name recognition.

It looks like the new Starbucks replacement is finally going in. They even set up some tables!

To clarify, when I use the term boardwalk, I'm referring to a path directly on the water, I care very little about the surface material. As such, I wouldn't consider your old river road proposal a boardwalk, just a wooden sidewalk. I have no idea if my colloquial usage of the term is technically correct or not, but what I'm interested is is specifically the ability to walk along the water. (Edit: it looks like both usages are correct). I think the old river road section will be one of the hardest gaps to fill, and if that ends up being the only missing link I can handle that. With that said, I also think it's a more important link than most as it connects FEB to Settlers landing. It's also downtown so the increased density means it deserves more attention. The old coast guard station is already connected along the water. While I certainly wouldn't oppose boarding this path over, I don't see enough utility to justify the comparative costs of boarding over perfectly acceptable paths. Maybe it can be justified through concerns about waves and ice (even though it's behind a breakwall), but I just think Cleveland should focus on more core / skeletal issues, before we focus on aesthetic / skin deep issues. Maybe the costs of just boarding the path over would be inconsequential, but these kind of simple projects always seem to cost way more than I think they have any right to.

Interesting article, and a great development, Cleveland needs more live music, and I'm happy to see another jazz club go in, particularly one with so much space and (it sounds like) potential for larger acts (and dare I say, hopefully space to dance?) I'm really interested to see the ballroom renovated as well. Lots to be excited about here. The Treelawn to Continue Waterloo Road’s Arts-Driven Transformation "The Treelawn Social Club opened in December, with other components — including a 600-capacity ballroom, a beer garden and bocce ball courts — yet to come. By Annie Nickoloff ... The campus features the now-open Treelawn Social Club, a new jazz venue that’s been hosting mostly local acts and pop-up dining options since December. There’s plenty more on the docket for the 39,000-square-foot space, including the main building originally constructed in 1927. The biggest component will be the 600-capacity ballroom, featuring a 1952 Steinway grand piano, slated to open in late spring or early summer. The Cleveland Brewery, formerly located on E. 185th Street, will exclusively operate out of the campus, Hanson says, with a taproom and beer garden in a grassy space, featuring a 100-year-old tree. A record store showroom is also in the works." There's more in there, so it's worth a click. https://clevelandmagazine.com/entertainment/music/articles/the-treelawn-to-continue-waterloo-road-s-arts-driven-transformation

I'm not old enough to have "back in my day" notions, but If your meeting can be as effective, or even more effective if it is held virtually, then it most likely did not need to be a meeting. There are plenty of meetings that are extraneous, but if you're looking to actually collaborate virtual meetings are much worse. This is doubly true if the problem that needs solved exist in the real world. There are times you need a paper trail, and there are times you need more time to think. But humans are evolved to interact face to face. I've never met a human being who collaborates better virtually. (Even if some people claim to). What always finds a way to be missing in these discussions is differences between industries. Some things like accounting can be fairly easily done remotely. Other things such as engineering (possibly excepting software engineering) need in person collaboration. The other thing forgotten about is that while some talent may preferentially choose work from home positions, in person communication has benefits in to teamwork, and possibly retention (it's hard to make meaningful friends with virtual coworkers). If I were to guess hybrid work makes the most sense and will become predominant. Flexibility will help attract talent, but still allow in person meetings and collaboration. Fully remote work only makes sense in a small number of industries, and those outside of those industries will probably be outcompeted by their hybrid or in person competitors.

So I was curious how attainable a boardwalk / riverfront trail is along these banks. So I made a quick sketch up where green is completed, yellow is planned, and orange/red are not planned. Orange sections strike me as easier lifts as they are currently parking or undeveloped. There's also a lot of variation in how planned some of the yellow sections really are. (Blue is alternative major paths close to the river). Honestly though, all the red/orange sections strike me as very attainable. It will just take quality leadership and some money. I'd very much like to see this be one continuos path, hopefully some day soon! (P.S. I'd also love to see an additional pedestrian river crossing north of center and south of Carter, maybe cable cars hanging from the bridges?).

Not in Duck Island it doesn't, but let's not forget about it's prime, surface-level-parking neighbor on the other side of the tracks that serves the Market. (Though arguably the most prime location would be the highly improbable building directly over the station.)

Thanks! That's been my experience as well. I've made that exact observation. You can see this in the urban area map as well. Columbus's boundaries are much cleaner than Cleveland / Cincinnati.