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Couple of screeners from the Cavs game last night.

Whatever ends up happening with the Scranton Averell property I would love to see a Circle Square type footprint with four to five 10-15 story mixed use buildings with a couple resident towers a Hotel and office/work space. All of this would surround a European type stone courtyard where people can gather in chairs and tables and benches. A very active space with a fountain in the center. Along the rivers edges would be a board walk with boat dockage. At dusk you would look across the river at the Bedrock development all lit up. And this is where I usually wake up...

I am surprised at the 50m for the WSM. It seems like about a year ago it was 10m and then 20m. You can do some significant damage with 50m but the description of what is being proposed doesnt seem to add up to that price. I am happy for the increase I just hope to see some big changes for that amount. There is not a lot of renderings that I can find. This was the only one.

It's going to be so odd to see that building active after all this time. When I first heard Starbucks I feared it would just be a drive thru location. A huge plus that it will have both indoor/outdoor seating. This will be a very busy Starbucks

Lets not forget that it has been almost 20 years since Bart Wolstein was awarded an expansion MSL team but unfortunately passed away that same year. https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Issues/2004/05/18/Sports-Industrialists/Wolstein-Passes-Away-At-77-MLS-Bid-Status-Unknown/

I think we are looking at a merger one day. We will see who gets the better TV contract over the next couple years

Here is the architect https://stadiumstructures.com/ If it is the USL Super League then that is on the same level as the NWSL which makes it a number one League in its sport.

Clinic ranked #2 in the World. https://www.newsweek.com/rankings/worlds-best-hospitals-2025

I am sure we will get some kind of value engineered version of those proposals. A half dozen 5/2 stick built buildings. And they will be marketed as luxury lakefront living with rent prices to match. And only for the select few who can afford them. But when will the next time be that 65 acres of lakefront property within the city limits becomes available? I have always believed that Great Spaces should be Public Places. Somewhere that everyone in the region can gather and celebrate together. To me that would be the proper use of this property.

No site is perfect each will have its own issues. But at some point you have to choose a site and make it work. To me the power plant site can be something great and keep Jimmy from making a huge mistake in BP. The goal here should be to make a decision that moves the city of Cleveland forward, BP does none of that. Personally I like the stadium where it is now and the land bridge will make it even better. But why renovate and be without a stadium for 3 years, we've seen that movie. If it's going to be 3 years without the stadium why not just tear it down at the end of next season. It would take 6 months to demo and two and a half years to build a new dome in its place. The foundation will already be there. So far this whole saga has been directed by Haslem. The city needs to take control and offer more options.

Keep in mind this is a 65 acre site in which you need about 15 to 20 acres for the stadium itself. That leaves you enough room to build some parking/garages that could be built on top of. You also have properties south of this site across the RR tracks that would be designated for parking. Also the muni lots are under 2 miles away with shuttles that could be used on game days. And a short extension for the WFL could be part of the planning. Despite what Haslem has you believe many stadiums are not surrounded by parking lots.

Oh well I am guessing my invitation to take part in this competition was lost in the mail :) So here we go as I wanted to illustrate how the Power Plant site could be used and should be used over any suburban site for the future Domed Stadium proposal. I wish the city/state was able to think outside the box and present more alternatives to the Browns much like Destination Cleveland did with the Vocon rendering for BKL. It was very well received by everyone. So with that same Vocon rendering, I placed that on the Power Plant site and it helped me visualize what could happen. Imagine that whole area with the Stadium, with the CHEERS project, with the upgrade of Gordon Park, also the future upgrade to the Shoreway, and N Marginal rd. These projects would also spur development of the Marina and the areas across the RR tracks. It would be our first true waterfront development. 5 years from now it would look completely different. Maybe Vocon can do another rendering for that site. Anyone here have a connection with them ? Also @KJP you should consider writing an article about alternative sites for the Stadium. Like the Post Office sites, BKL and the Power Plant site. It would get a lot of attention considering how polarizing the BP site is. Maybe it's not too late.

I posted an idea for a stadium at the power plant site about 5 years ago. I think it would work great there.

Had to rebrand the nickname. No charge Dan

Another huge investmaent in the city of Cleveland from Dan Gilbert. While Jimmy dreams of parking lots.

On the previous page I asked the question is it possible to build a stadium at BKL while it remains open, while at the same time planning its eventual closing. There are pages of evidence that it has been done through a simple google search. Here is the general rule from the FAA Federal law requires that the FAA determine whether a structure that is proposed to be built or altered, 200 feet above ground level (AGL) or higher, or near an airport, does not pose a hazard to the airspace. Basically you have to prove it wont interfere with take offs and landings.. I wish we could hear more from the city/county regarding other options. Like the Post office site and other properties around it. If Haslem would consider sites for a dome in Cleveland he wouldn't have this public relations nightmare. Hes got enough of those as it is.

Jim Tressel Lt. Gov nominee https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/ohio/governor-mike-dewine-jim-tressel-ohio-lieutenant-appointment-former-state-football-coach/95-b23410ea-c31f-4f27-9284-f520f824e8f3

Is it possible to build a stadium at BKL while the airport remains open? If we use Ford Field as an example it can be done. Ford Field is approximately 800x900 feet on 16 acres in Detroit. It is a fixed roof stadium built in the city and not surrounded by a sea of parking lots. But most importantly it is just 126 ft in height. I have placed it at the western edge of BKL displacing the terminal and a couple of hangers. These could be replaced further down N Marginal at not alot of cost. The Rock Hall just 1200 ft from BKL is 162 ft in height which satisfies the FAA height parameters. FF was opened in 2002 at a cost of 500m which in 2024 numbers is 1.1m. Let's round up to 1.5m for construction to start in 2026/27. The muni parking lots would be used exclusively for the stadium on event days. And Jimmy World could be built on the lakefront along with the land bridge. Let's do this!

With good momentum regarding the TC/Bedrock development I never hear anyone mention any plans for the Thermal energy plant. It is never addressed in any of the articles or presentations. To make that whole area work it is going to have to be demolished or take the very long steps to redevelop it which will involve tax credits, brownfield grants. structural assessments etc. I am sure behind the scenes Bedrock must be looking into it. The last thing I could find was from 2015 when the thermal plant was purchased and demolition was in the works. https://www.cleveland.com/business/2015/08/canadians_buy_cleveland_therma.html

Marriott expands luxury W brand to Ohio with hotel, residences The $218 million project will take shape in downtown Cleveland as Marriott grows its W Hotels portfolio to new markets nationwide. https://www.hoteldive.com/news/marriott-expands-luxury-w-hotels-residences-brand-ohio-/736885/

^Still all of those problems seem a small price to pay for Sexy Bathrooms🙂

Anyone know if the rooftop space is open. It seems to be lit up Also in this same photo wouldn't it be nice to hear some talk again about 750 Huron. Surprised it's taken this long. Remove those antennas, unblock the windows, turn some lights on. It's 2025 most of that equipment is probably obsolete.

Downtown Memorial Bike Loop Plans https://www.clevescene.com/news/downtown-memorial-bike-loop-plans-will-be-unveiled-early-this-year-45796525