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It was just Ohio Bell back office space. Pretty nondescript building but could have a cool interior if done right, has great parking and is in a pretty good location.

The windows at the 9 are not particularly tiny (probably about 5 feet top to bottom).

^Mini rant because it is Friday night and I have absolutely nothing else going on in my life. Obviously, given its audience, that article has an agenda and must reflect a certain tone. However, in painting the requisite picture (that is tax credits are good and revitalize neighborhoods) it unfortunately fudges some facts. Relatively minor mistakes, but still frustrating to me for the reason that there could be other inaccurate information in the article upon which I rely as being true because I have no knowledge one way or another. Again, no big deal but it mentions the new small organic grocer going into the Quarter building and hypes this development in a "former food desert" (by the way, as a side note that term drives me nuts although not nearly as much as when somebody on HGTV creams their pants over an "open concept"). I definitely have to dispute this portrayal of the neighborhood since a pretty large reasonably priced Dave's and the West Side Market are about 4 blocks away. The article also states Snavely is building a 23 acre park across the street (I am assuming the author is referring to the Irishtown Bend project). While Snavely may be promoting the park and may even be making contributions toward it, it is a major stretch to suggest they and they alone are building it. If true they certainly are the corporate citizens of the century (at least in my mind because Irishtown Bend is going to transformative). OK rant is over. I know there more important things to obsess over (e.g. Jacobs Public Square surface lot?)

I sure hope UCI first got permission from that NIMBY Thompson Hine attorney before they bought the parcel. Interesting how the article states the Visconsi development "fell through" It should state they were NIMBYed to death.

Sorry to disappoint you but they did.

Wasn't all the drama surrounding the Herold Building about 4-5 years the impetus for the whole Nucleus project in the first place? If I recall correctly out of town owners (California?) wanted to tear it down for parking and the city was putting up a big fight. Out of nowhere Stark steps in and buys that property and the lot and garage across the street and announces Nucleus. Unfortunately, since then the focus has been Nucleus and you never hear about any plans for the renovation of the other buildings Starks owns on Prospect. I hope they are not forgotten.

So what ended up happening at Landmarks?

I have to laugh at that headline. There is nothing "authentic" with 90% of the buildings in Little Italy and that has been the case for decades. Homes chopped up in to cubby holes, porches boarded up, bad aluminum siding or worst, chain leak fences just to name a few of many crimes. I wish somebody would go in and just buy homes wholesale and bring them back to what they should be.

Not really. If you guys want amenity laden new construction in Cleveland (like everybody on this board is screaming for) those prices are just about right (probably a little more than $2 per square foot). Apparently that is the bottom line for new construction (especially high rise) even in a city like Cleveland.

Clearly you are just as nosy as @YABO713? Better watch yourself. They might have instructions to stuff you in the back of a truck and drive you out to a field in Streetsboro just for asking.

It has been suggested in the Lakefront Development thread that since Pace apparently does not have the ability to complete the envisioned lakefront plan on his own and his partner Trammell is basically worthless in the endeavor, that the only way to funnel resources into the project is for the deep pocketed Haslams to get involved. A few months ago I recall an article where it was vaguely discussed that the Haslams were looking for a new site for the Browns (a long term project) with ancillary development or were exploring getting involved in enhancing the lakefront around the current stadium as an alternative. The article presented all of this as something in its infancy with a lot of study and planning necessary. Maybe, behind the scenes, the city has been trying to get the Haslams involved in the lakefront recognizing Pace's limitations (although I am probably giving the city of Cleveland's planning professionals way too much credit) and that article and the ESPN tidbit are vague smoke signals that something is up. Or maybe not. A good indication might be if Pace requests yet another extensive of his option. Right now he has to start something by June.

Great that they are renovating the Murrary Hill buildings. Fingers crossed they do a tasteful and unique re hab. Too bad they could not have continued all the way down to the corner of Cornell and Random. Those two houses stick out like a sore thumb. Especially that yellow beauty. Would love to see the inside. Would make a great HGTV Windy City Rehab (Forest City Rehab) episode. You know the kind of episode where they hold their noses while touring the place and then tear down everything but the four outside walls.

Whatever you would like it to be in your dreams.?

Smart a$$? In the city club apartment thread YOU define high rise as 10-20 stories.

CC is eighteen floors. Isn't Beacon nineteen floors without the garage pedestal?

^40+ years? Poor Crittendon Court gets no love or respect. Maybe because it was so poorly executed.

Sorry I hurt your feelings but after 15 years on this board I get very frustrated when I click onto a thread hoping for new updates or new ideas and have to hash through the same old same old. Here is my summary. Shit soil, FAA, ten of millions that could be spent better elsewhere including on other parts of the lakefront. Unfortunately, even with that brief summary I am sure I have just opened the flood gates. Can't wait.

Oh good. Let's start going round and round with this one again. Maybe the mods can make a new rule and limit it to 5 pages of everybody repeating themselves again.

Van Aken District is definitely my favorite new development in the region from a design perspective. I just hope they keep going as I believe it needs to be much bigger to be a transformative draw. I would like to see the next construction phase at the intersection of Warrensville and Chagrin (with a taller building as anchor-10-12 stories) but I recall a while back an interview with the developer and he suggested Phase 2 would probably be an apartment building on the Farnsleigh parking lot. This probably should be in the Van Aken District thread.

I would like to know the names of the Beaumont officials who thought this was a good idea.

If this building ever comes to be, given its prominent location, I would be more concerned with its street level design rather than its height. Of course I have never been a height junkie like many on the board.

Does anybody have some pics of Moses Cleaveland's lakefront plan??

You post gave me a sad little chuckle. I also grew up in Maple Hts. in the 60s. Your comment reminds me how all the adult homeowners of that period would say the same exact thing about their former neighborhoods in Cleveland. Ironic?

It was before design review for schematic approval.

That lakefront re-set button has to be worn out by now after 40 years of pushing.?