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I am old enough to remember $4.50 box seats, $3.50 reserve seats, $2.50 general admission and the bleachers for a buck. Of course, at the time, I was making $1.65 an hour at my after school job.

I am really interested to see what they have planned for this area. I have always hated it from afar. However, this summer I was up there for the first time in my life for the Elton John concert. It is even worse up close.

Actually it went forward this morning and all requested variances were granted. Now just waiting for the gang in Columbus.

I have always been surprised that Miami of all places did not have a men's varsity soccer program (they had club soccer when I was a student and I imagine they still do). My guess it has something to do with balance with women's sports because of Title IX.

Based on everything recently posted I am guessing it is the later.

Well the vote was encouraging....7 to 1 in favor. I did not watch the presentation and just caught the vote. Glad to see chairman Trott did not vote no because of the height. I will have to go back and see what her comments were in that regard. I am sure she had some. Michelle Anderson, the shining star of the commission, was the lone no vote.

Same price point as Cuffs in Chagrin Falls? If yes it seems out of whack for the neighborhood. The thinking would have to be that it will be come a west side regional draw.

Running a restaurant these days, especially for a small business owner, is a nightmare, even if you are busy (which actually maybe more of a nightmare) If, as you state, he was offered a great deal, he must be pretty stubborn or not particularly bright.

Yeah I am hoping it is not a big issue with a related huge cost to fix. Something like this could affect the math of a Phase 2 making it more difficult.

Ha ha. I lived in Bridgeview about 20 years ago and had the same issue. When I first moved in my corridor was relatively empty so I didn't think there were any issue with thin walls. Then a guy moved in next door and I heard him "hanging out" all the time (he sure had a lot of stamina) and this really un-nerved me. All of a sudden I had to take steps so he did not hear me "hanging out". It resulted in some awkward pre hanging out conversations.

Maybe a dumb question but how do you fix thin walls at this point?

I imagine this project is going to get slammed at Landmarks. Usual suspects attacking its height no matter the very rational contentions raised by the developer.

Yeah, I am guessing it probably has to do with funding rather than a resolution of the court action. In my mind that is better news than any current resolution of law suit. For what it worth, the court docket does not provide any hints or evidence of a resolution. A coupe of parties filed their merit briefs yesterday and the Port moved for an extension to file its brief which was granted (until the 14th).

I agree with you that this will be the case (unfortunately in my mind for so many reason). What I am going to find interesting is whether in 3-4 years we are going to start seeing a whole host of employment lawsuits where the complainant asserts he/she was fired or not promoted because they choose to work from home rather than the office. At this point I cannot imagine what the legal basis would be, especially in an employment at will state, but as we all know plaintiff's attorneys can be very creative.

Hey @E Rocc. I am loving your new "right wing politically correct" language. "Comfortable situation"...that is just precious. Just for the record, I worked for almost 40 years downtown, lived there for two years and played downtown since I was a little kid. My parents never had a problem with me heading downtown with friends or even alone for a Tribe game from Maple Hts even when I was as young as twelve. Never felt "uncomfortable" all these years (and I once had a guy fall over on top of me and die from a heart attack while sitting on a bench waiting for a rapid) I guess that is just me.

I certainly don't want to go off topic but you have to admit you are one of the least positive posters on the forum when it comes to downtown which is your right. Everybody has their own opinions. You just seem to go out of your way. It definitely annoys me but I guess that is my problem.

This has been discussed extensively all day long in the Office Development thread. Obviously it is best to keep the discussion going in one thread rather than all over the forum. This is the third thread this has been brought up. Do you guys look over the forum before you post.

My question was more to his general proposition that all of downtown was a ghost town. Would these 400 or so employees help with that problem. I know it is a drop in the bucket but it can't hurt. As we know the referenced poster has a very positive attitude when it comes to downtown (NOT) so I take most of what he states with a grain of salt. By the way, I will be the first to admit that downtown is much more quite since the pandemic, but lets face it, this is the case nationwide at this point. The New York Times just published an article discussing the state of downtowns all over and the reference "ghost town" was used often, including when describing places like Hartford, the Chicago Loop (although other parts of the city are doing fine) and sections of Seattle, among others.

Do you think Cross Country moving into downtown from Brecksville will help?

This has been discussed all day in the office development thread. Makes sense to keep the conversation going in one location.

So true. They could have easily moved to a barren office park in the prairies of Richfield where a lot of vacant office space is calling.

I imagine that eventually this will turn residential. We are running out of buildings to convert in the heart of the city, especially this extra attractive location. The only thing that might hamper a conversion in the short term are the same economic factors which may contribute to a slow in the construction industry the next few years.

I thought Marous was in the process of redeveloping the Voss property? Am I wrong about this?

A creative company like AG moving to a city like Westlake is still a mystery to me. I am sure, of course, there we incentives, and the fact that at least it was not a bland office park helped with the decision. Still I think a company like AG would be a perfect fit for some place like Ohio City. They could have slide into an office component of the Intro development very easily, and I think they would have had many happy employees. I wonder if that had been an option at the time they would have considered it.

Again I cannot read the article but I was guessing that part of the equation is that their office staff is now a fraction of what it was pre pandemic with large numbers working remotely. If there is a small sliver lining...at least they are moving to an inner ring suburb which can use the tax base rather than some place like Westlake or Strongsville.