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Which seems odd considering that is pure Strickland country. Russians were talking about building two steel mills along the Ohio in the mid-2000s but they backed out. Yet the road projects meant to serve them still live.

Oh by the way, I bought my IROC off of a guy in Fairfield just down the street from a car stereo shop called "Car Tunes" In the '90s I'm pretty sure every major strip mall across the country had a car stereo shop called Car Tunes, all owned by different people who couldn't sue each other because it was such a generic thing to do. I tried to find the strip mall when I moved to Cincinnati but I think it got ate by Jungle Jim's. I can only hope that the stereo that was in there was purchased from Car Tunes.

Well, allegedly, but if the only thing those hayseed kids had in common with black people was extremely mainstream music I doubt they were all that impressed.

Here you go, a video recap of what you're talking about: "The totally horrible swing music revival was, by contrast, quite obviously constructed by the record industry because they bet that they could get a lot of girls to buy those records and go to those shows, and the nerdy nice guys would show up since they were fooled into thinking those girls in poodle skirts wanted nice guys." Aw yuck, I hate seeing stuff like that throw down in person. The flip side of that is seeing fat girls with terrible personalities prowl around metal venues trying to get with guys they otherwise had no chance with by using a passing amount of metal knowledge hoping the guy gets real sappy when he meets a girl who knows who the band Sodom is. But, that's dried up too since most metal venues have to be driven to, rockers have notorious transportation problems in the U.S. and it's really easy to get a DUI now.

Well, one thing about being a teen in the mid-90s is that if you called out the post-Biggie/Tupac rap like Ma$e and Puffy as being inferior to the P.E./N.W.A. era you were shunned because the other teens somehow didn't notice the difference. And most kids were all rap all the time (or nu-country), so even being into the gigantic Nirvana was considered strange. And being into muscle cars was considered strange, like you were Todd from Beavis and Butthead. There was one kid at my school that won nearly all the superlatives in the raw vote including Best Car simply because he knew a ton about rap. But the school had a policy that a student could only win one superlative so my souped-up IROC ended up beating his bone stock '90 Toronado with a big stereo (even though my stereo was even bigger at the time, but I used it to blast Savatage and Helloween rather than Ma$e so no one cared) That's how rap-obsessed kids were at my all-white-with-a-few-Asians semi-rural school system. Of course, that was teens as a whole at the time. Now as mid-30s, the student body would look back at those raw voting results and be like "Wow, all we could think about was rap back then, couldn't we?"

And now there's no major car fad for young people to get into. Autocross has gotten a lot bigger because it's cheap and you can use your regular car for it, but that was always around, people of all ages do it and it's not merely about looks -- it's about ability. You have to get good at it rather than just being able to put on drip tint, wire up a booming system and airbrush pictures of kids with baggy pants and a can of spraypaint on the back. Then there's the LeMons and ChumpCar crapcan racing that got big, but that's not visible on the street because the events happen at racetracks and most of the cars aren't street legal. Now there is one stupid annoying teenager trend that has come around called "stance" but it's not even remotely as popular as the import tuner (or pejoratively, "ricer") thing from the '90s and early 2000s. Here's an example of a Stance car: They're mostly Japanese or European.

Let's drift back on!

There were indeed some screechy liberals in the '90s. '80s MTV wasn't really all that into politics, but if anything '80s MTV did lean more to the conservative side overall simply due to the nature of the programming and videos; just not the religious conservative side. None of those metal or hair rock bands really appealed to most liberals. I suppose New Wave did but Pop's, well, Pop. For most of the '90s MTV was SuperLib, though, jeez. MTV wouldn't lean back to the conservative side until they began increasingly filling their schedule with consumption-related content in the late '90s. All those shots of Escalades, mansions and Sweet-16 type programming is straight up conservative propaganda.

^^Yes. And many of those areas are full of teenagers because people somehow think those exurban areas are a "safe" place to raise teens. It's not. You go to some of these areas and they're just crawling with teens crashing into stuff. Or at least they were until teens started cutting back on driving.

The training level of our drivers resembles that of a third-world country. We needed more stringent training for not only teens but adults need it as well. Somehow adults think that more than a year of driving in a straight line on interstates hours and hours a week makes you a better driver when in reality that is impossible. Just like anything else, you must push your limits and maintain your skills in order to be any good at driving. People somehow forget this. Most Americans are positively terrible drivers, yet there aren't nearly as many crashes as there could be since interstates are so mindless.

Oh no, now somebody's gotta call Micheal Moore.

that video would be better if the sound was all warbly Like all those self-help videos from the '90s that everybody spoofs now? Apparently a ton of those tapes got made but I don't remember any of them coming out. Maybe I just didn't need that much self-help at the time. I've siad it once and I'll say it again. The early '90s were NUTS. Nuts, nuts, nuts. Clothing, music, hair, dancing, decor, all of it. Nearly everything that was redecorated in the early '90s got re-re-decorated by 1996. You always know you're in a dead mall if it looks early '90s inside. The early '90s were so bonkers that I was forced to make an "Early '90s Sucked" web page by late '90s.

Listen to this Millennial summing it up for him and his peers all the way back in 1997: (at 1:14)

ah, that's not what I meant, I was saying she was awfully young for someone who doesn't know how to use the internet. I'll be 40 soon enough.

Only partially. You're forgetting the airport itself which makes a ton of money off parking revenues, plus independent parking lot owners around the airport, plus private shuttle bus services some of which are owned by various large venues like convention centers and tourist sites. I know this is old, but I recently saw something online (either here or on Columbus Underground) that said that over 50% of CMHs revenue is parking fees.

Jeez jake, you need to get away from that awful Cincinnati radio (besides WAIF) and take a hit off of some CD102.5 on the 'net or something. Good stuff's still getting made, you just aren't going to hear it on WEBN or any of the other turd stations down there. What's that one alt-rock-ish station that showed a little promise after that other really good station (can't remember the name) shut down in 2007-2008?

Or come up with some other B.S. about why there will be so much development along the line.

Yeah. I don't like how the internet has to dominate nearly everything today. Sometimes that's why I envy old people. They're about the only ones around whose brains haven't been rewired by computers. There's one lady in her 40s who comes into work and has Aspberger's who has never used the internet. It's like talking to someone from 1990.

This list, like most others produced by national publications, is inaccurate because those putting it together were too lazy to do actual research. Cincinnati's claim to being the #1 "city" for high school football is based on the success of schools that are actually located in unincorporated areas outside of city limits. The confusion comes from the fact that many of these townships (and thus the schools located within them) have zip codes that require writing "Cincinnati" after the street address. There's even parts of Clermont County like that.

Get your government out of my government!

As someone that likes sports, I can see where an acre lot would be nice for small kids to be able to play catch, have a basketball hoop, etc. But in a dense area, that's what the neighborhood park is for. And most new developments I have seen have so much grading between lots that the usable area doesn't really allow for any of these activities anyway. Besides, the oversized house plus oversized garage plus oversized driveway plus overdone landscaping takes up a large portion of the 1/4 to 1/3 acre lots. Many backyards in Ohio City have as much contiguous usable space than many of these new suburban lots. Maybe what made me different when we lived in the 'burbs is that while we had a 1 acre lot, my folks had me go to the park or the school to burn off energy. We never had our own basketball hoop, pool or anything like that. We did have one of those home-assembled swing sets that I got too big for by age 7. They weren't going to spend money on that crap when their taxes had already paid for it elsewhere. But when we moved to the farm they had to buy thousands of dollars worth of stuff to keep me entertained because the public fixtures were way too far away. We had no cable, the internet wasn't a thing yet and I hadn't picked up any instruments. I was bored as hell!

To me, "space" isn't even valuable until you get to 30-40 acres. Other than that whether I'm in a 800 sq. ft. apartment or a McMansion on 10 acres it's all the same to me. You still can't make a lot of noise, ride dirt bikes, have a big fire, shoot guns, rev you car loud or anything like that in sprawl either. "Oooh, I've got an extra bedroom, time to fill it with jars, boxes, old Easter baskets and other crap. This is really worth the extra $40,000." That's what people do too.

[quote author=E Rocc link=topic=26848.msg668751#msg668751 The same is true about bands playing out, both the audience and the musicians.[/color] Besides the ridiculous work schedules people in their 20-30s often face, I've noticed that the reason most bands you see out today are either under 25 or over 40 is that the business skills of the over 40 set are simply better. Meanwhile, the under 25 bands have someone's parent(s) doing most of the business for them. So even with all the behavioral problems that musicians that age display, their folks are still able to pull them together at least for a while.

When I lived in Cincinnati during the late 2000s I rarely saw anybody riding unless I was up by Fairfield. It was really strange. I didn't like riding in the city; the cagers were too selfish. I moslty rode in Kentucky, Clarmont County, in Indiana and out toward Rumpke Mountain. When I got back to Columbus I'd immediately see all the gatherings of Hayabusas and ZX-14s with chrome wheels, extended swingarms and poorly re-done paint and body work I was used to.

And a big bag of gunj to clambake in the car before going into the theater to watch Excalibur.