GCrites

Well, I think that there's only one major difference between Pittsburgh's potential and ours: Ohio's state government allows sprawl to bully cities while Pennsylvania's does not. When they try to make their cities nicer, they don't get a bunch of people in oversize vehicles driving in from 40 miles away telling them that they have to knock it off. Oh, and I can't help but feel that the success of the Steelers has changed the perception of the city on the national stage.

Of course it does. Most of the good rock and roll initially came from England. The early American stuff was pretty much souped-up big band tunes. Rock and roll didn't get good until the city dwellers got involved and gave it the blues. Sprawl isn't quiet. Sprawl doesn't have garbage trucks, really? There's way too much automobile related noise. School buses mashing the throttles on their diesel engines which sound like they're full of rocks while robotically beeping and barking to everyone within earshot that they are about to move. Teens booming their systems just as loud as in town. Airplanes. Freeway whine. Fire trucks. The cacophony of 80 different lawn care machines banging away at once. '93 Lumninas with no mufflers running on 3 cylinders delivering papers. White trash driving around in overloaded pickups full of stuff like old washing machines and tires. That whole "sprawl is quiet" thing is just something real estate agents said in the '50s and that happened to stick around though the sitcom era.

I wouldn't like an urban growth boundary if it keeps us from annexing warehouses that pop up in some township. Then the taxes just go to gold plating ribbon development.

God, I hope they don't get in. But, they've sold a lot of records because their sound made radio climax. Bon Jovi didn't even influence the other major hair bands, only D-grade ones like Lion and Tigertailz. Bon Jovi's influence on bands such as Sugar Ray and Chumbawumba is what got them nominated I imagine. City Center Mall stuff.

^ if there's one thing we know how to do around here, it's those!

There's another Average Joe's up there in the N. Hamilton/Old 161 vinyl zone in one of those 7-year-old, perennially half-empty strip plazas.

I think because it's relatively cheap. The 270/315/23 interchange project up here also got moved up. I wouldn't be surprised if it's because it's "only" $90 million.

Therefore, they have no comment on any project, anywhere, ever. Including science fair projects.

These people (and/or their tenants) are going to need jobs or else the cheap properties do them no good. As we know, cheap property is a symptom. People don't leave areas with tons of jobs or else the Sunbelt would have half as many people as it does due to it's massive sprawly hellscapes.

Megachurch wants your moneymoneymoneymoneymoneymoney

Yes, but Cleveland does the decent thing by trying to herd most of them into a confined part of the metro area where the rest of us can't hear their country music, or see their trucks' Yosemite Sam mudflaps, or smell their grits. You know the place I'm talking about....... Akron. Incoming!!! CDM will be the first to point out that is NOT in our metro. Now, I have dealt with my fair share of hillbillies and rednecks. They are a very rare species north of I-80. I am not sure what you would label the species of folks you find west of the Cuyahoga who wear cut off Def Leopard shirts, still rock the mullets, and spit every 15 seconds.... but they are not rednecks or hillbillies. You occassionally see their male counterparts with that style too. Heshers?

Oooh, that's like the nuclear holocaust of Nashville having both Krystal and White Castle.

I thought that was all the Borden plant when I was a kid.

The paint thing is pretty much the only difference. But a car with no paint is way more likely to wind up in a junkyard since that kind of damage is so expensive to repair if a shop handles the job. I just put a Velcro strap around my ankle to keep my jeans from getting torn on sprockets.

"Honey, when I saw that guy put a bucket on his head I knew this getaway was worth it."

He might have did it on mine if he worked there in MArch of '87. Dunno how many shifts they ran, but mine was definitely done in Norwood rather than California. The Norwood cars are the good ones; the ones made in California have water-based paint that peeled after a few years.

Those 305s were pretty sad; I think the '82s made 165 horsepower. But by '87 you could get the 350 with 230hp.

Oh man, the mini truck scene. Lots of black jean shorts and white mini truck event t-shirts. People never respected those things nearly as much as sports cars, muscle cars or even mud trucks -- I don't think people could relate to them.

Most people who haven't lived in Cincinnati are probably going to miss out on the "everybody knows" reference.

Sounds like the bus trips my buddies took in Morocco.

Yeah, the box cheese must gum up the machine. You just aren't shopping at the right places. Everybody knows a place where you can still get baggy jeans.

I remember a lot of dudes started channeling Brian Austin-Green and Marky Mark. But before that were the white guys with the mullets, sweaters/sweater vests, mustaches, gold chains and British Knights. I will note that the schools I went to at that time that actually had significant black student populations had none of them while the 99% white school I moved to had tons. The way they talked about visiting "the 'hood" was ridiculously melodramatic. "Damn, you gotta watch yourself in the 'hood..." "Think about what would happen if you walked down the street in the 'hood..." "There's drive-by's all the time..." Their trips to the 'hood usually consisted of once a month trips to the South Side or The Bottoms (as the floodable part of Franklinton was called at the time) to see their uncle or whatever when of course nothing happened. Then back to the ribbon development or trailer park in Pickaway County to talk about how 'hood they were for visiting those parts of town.

Everlast flashback!

C-Dawg, you just missed the really good years for meatheads in college. In 2000 college everybody thought they were Fred Durst.

Bros can live almost anywhere, but congregate anywhere there's a chance of getting laid. Ones that live in sprawl get a ton of DUIs.