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Don't forget that one of the main things that cursed Franklinton was flooding. Until Franklinton Floodwall 2000 went up, obviously people weren't going to sink a lot of time, effort and money into the areas that were prone to flooding. Though it has been over 10 years, installation of a floodwall doesn't necessarily translate into immediate revitalization. In Portsmouth, most prewar/pre-floodwall frame houses in the basin are bent, and I'd imagine the situation is the same in parts of Franklinton. People aren't always the ones who want to be first to sort out that situation.

^Ol' Stagerlee's. They move a lot of $10 bottles of Tanq and sometimes have to shut down early due to unruly clientele.

If cars were invented today, they'd never make it past the Consumer Product Safety Commission for being far too deadly. Look at what they did to 3-wheelers and lawn darts back in the '80s.

Those guys all have enough money to buy race cars. They should spend the summer doing driving schools and then race in the fall. Are they still going to be practicing and doing drills this summer?

That's the thing about Columbus -- that there aren't that many old warehouses that are in disuse as compared to other cities. I'm thinking along the lines of The Music Building in NYC. A lot of the ones here either still being used, are somewhat newer, have been rehabbed (Smith Bros.) or have been destroyed. We really do have a ton of warehouses in this city, though.

Gotta that last 1% of smoke out of the air at any cost.

Hmm, Delco. I'll have to add that to my vocab.

^Also, people don't like driving in the far western parts of Franklin County because of the crazy diagonal roads that force you to take a million jogs if you want to go directly north south east or west. It's limited development in the area severely.

Probably Barnesville. The section of SR 800 from 2-3 miles north of Barnesville to I-70 was completely realigned from a ridge road to a valley 1/4mi to the west sometime in the '70s due to strip mining. I've not hear of much strip mining activity that went on in Monroe County, of which Woodsfield is the county seat.

But the key distinction of a "Pony Keg" in Ohio is that they sell (or used to sell, depending on the individual business) 1/4 bbl kegs of beer. In most other cities in Ohio, you have to go to the beer distributor to get those.

Those original listings you cite (210-212) could be legacy numbers from as far back as 1990.

I'll have to check with my folks on this, but I don't think we've been able to get anything in the ground at our farm in Pickaway County yet. Today's rain isn't helping.

Processor clock speed sure has leveled off. The desktop I bought 10 years ago was 1.8Ghz.

My browser shortened the title of this thread on the main page to JRC's Nightmare on E. I'd suggest getting your Ecstasy only from people whom you trust, not just some that's randomly handed to you at a rave. Anyway, does your place have two separate kitchens then? Had it been converted to two units at one point? I'd find it satisfying to restore a house to it's original state.

Well, yeah, definitely not a conspiracy. It's more of a matter of making his party, buddies and campaign donors happy.

I'm starting to think that Kasich is acting as a fall guy. He may not be concerned about his future political appeal since he can always find work in the corporate world or as an appointee.

But they have to want to do it; not be told that it's wrong, greedy or irresponsible for them not to.

Isn't it legal to run stoplights at night in Youngstown after you have come to a complete stop and no one is coming? They probably think it's true in the daytime as well.

Screen stuff gets slow in the spring.

Sounds like Dayton buses.

Well, that was about as '90s as it gets.

Columbus says "What's a turn signal?" I think it's a fairly new phenomenon. When I was learning to drive as a teenager, I don't remember Columbus drivers having a problem with turn signal usage. I lived in other cities for 10 years and upon my return I was greeted with a city that seems to refuse to raise it's ham arm to hit the turn signal stalk. Columbus secondary roads and side friction: Best observed on our high speed crosstown roads such as Livingston, Hamilton, Main and Broad. OK people, haven't you realized yet that turning left from anywhere but a traffic light is really stupid here? You're going to sit and sit and sit. Oh, what a surprise, you got bored while waiting for the non-stop restrictor-plate pack of cars to dissipate in both directions. Clearly best solution is to stop traffic by pulling your vehicle out into the travel lanes and blocking them so that you can turn left out of the check cashing place. Cincinnati secondary roads, on street parking and additional lane availability: Everybody knows that on-street parking comes and goes all over town and also knows that a clear right lane won't last long. So what do you do when the right lane opens up or more lanes exist for an intersection? Get in the new lane and floor it! Who cares if someone in front of you needs to be in that lane? The whole road is yours, and traffic behind you won't end up coming to a complete halt to let the guy who was in front of you get over while you hog it. Tailgating: Everybody knows that Cincinnati drivers tailgate a lot, but it's almost a part of the culture and they're really good at it. It is annoying, but they're not going to hit you. Now, in Columbus, tailgating infuriates me because it is not acceptable here and doesn't happen much. When it does, the car is usually poorly maintained and you can't trust whomever is doing it since they're usually some kind of tweaker. 275: Man, people drive slowly on this road, especially on the East Side. People drive way faster on 71 in the heart of the city than on 275. Middletown and U-turns: Why is this the only city in the state where U-turns are legal? Can the rest of us not handle it? Were this city's citizens blessed with a special gene that only they and residents of other states have? Cincinnati's skilled drivers: I do maintain that Cincinnati drivers, on a purely technical basis, have the most ability of any city in the state. Daily, they drive briskly on technical narrow roads with lots of curves and elevation changes. Not only that, but they have to make quick decisions constantly as a new surprise often awaits around the corner or at the top of the hill. Whether it's always the right decision or they choose the proper aggressiveness level is another story. One exception: the West Side. Every time I went over there were crashes all over the place and ambulances running around. It's kind of surprising that not many good race car drivers come out of the Cincy area; the only one I can think of offhand is Danny Popp. I think it has to do with the lack of racecourses around.

It's still a shame. A lot of other cities stopped doing this kind of wholesale demolition in the '70s.

Bit of a necrobump here, but I'm starting to notice the media is getting pretty comfortable with just flat-out saying "sprawl", whereas 5-10 years ago use of the word would have been considered "loaded" terminology.

I'm also in the camp that thinks this project will remain on indefinite hold. How is this guy funded? I just don't picture a lot of outside capital being available at this time for this type of project, regardless of how well Oakley is attracting YPs at this time or because of road projects in the area.