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The geology of Nashville prevents basements from being dug. Super hard rock.

You wouldn't like Southern California then

A lot of times the acts are still playing in the same G/Em C/Am positions they usually did (80% of songs in 1980 were in these two keys) but now they are pitch-shifting them up or down to whatever key in order to "differentiate" the sound.

You, like most people today of almost all ages, are no longer accustomed to hearing mids. Today you have to seek out equipment and music with mids. Cars don't have them. Computer speakers don't. Headphones don't. The mix doesn't. Music and equipment from 1988 and before does. My home stereo and the aftermarket system in my IROC-Z do and initially listening to music through them creates the effect you describe. Eventually it goes away as your ears and brain adjust.

Raleigh really kicks our ass for its size doesn't it?

And we now have enough Early 2020s in the book to start categorizing the music of the time! Summary? Subdivided beats are back AND Emo's back

So the Vietnam comment got me thinking about songs with this type of beat when I hear them on the radio (others include "Slow Ride" and "All Right Now") -- it's not just about cowbells or percussion. It's about the kind of beat that made people move their heads front and back kind of like a headbang except the head doesn't tilt down. It was very prolific at the time but kind of sticks out now as quite outdated in a way that the Stones and Black Sabbath do not. Classic rock radio still plays these types of songs often. I used to wonder why they stuck around on the radio -- in contrast to Pink Floyd, Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Tom Petty etc. where it's obvious how their sound has influenced modern music. But if that beat is a reminder of what music sounded like when all those guys started coming back from Vietnam it is going to be lionized in that manner.

One or two crap jobs at the wrong time can really derail a young person.

Bootstrapping and time poverty are very bad for your health so it's easy to wind up dead if it fails. The obituaries in Columbus used to be full of men in their 50s due to it.

Supply and demand coupled with industry trends don't give one iota about your bootstraps. There's more to an industry than just you. People who fix broken stuff all day struggle with this since concept everything is always breaking until that thing they know how to fix no longer exists. Then they learn it very quickly.

People back then bought into the lie that if you just "work hard" those things will come. When that didn't happen (as it often does, and especially in the late 2000s) they snapped and withdrew from the system they like and understand the least in order to get those things. "Boomer Entitlement." That's why all those toys are aimed at Boomers now. They barely make sport quads at all; it's all UTVs now. Sportbikes are a tiny fraction of the market; it's all touring bikes and Harleys for people with tons of free time.

I remembered it had something to do with concrete. I just thought they were adding on.

If it's anything like the VA program no they won't. The home condition requirements for that are extreme.

Last furnace I had installed was $4,100 in 2022, good enough for 1,600 Sq. Ft. It would have been cheaper if it didn't need a propane kit. Had a boiler installed in another house in 2019 which was $9k.

Is that Cranley talking to someone in a flip cap?

The trucker shortage is not going to be fixed for a long time even with an increase in immigration. It's a bad job that people don't have to take anymore since they don't have 3 kids by 27 now.

Prices at the supermarket keep rising. So do corporate profits. Is it really inflation? Or something else? ...Tyson Foods, the largest meat company in the US, also more than doubled its profits between the first quarter of 2021 and the first quarter of 2022. Packaged foods manufacturer General Mills, which owns a variety of cereal brands as well as food brands like Annie’s, Betty Crocker, Chex, and Bisquick, has raised prices five times since 2021 and indicated another price hike could be coming soon. At the end of last year, its profits were up 97 percent compared to the previous quarter, and up 16 percent annually. Conagra, which owns packaged food brands like Healthy Choice, Duncan Hines, and Reddi-wip, noted a 22 percent profit increase in its last quarterly earnings report. Grocery giant Walmart — the largest US corporation, bar none — has seen its profits grow for the past several years, with a 7 percent jump between 2020 and 2021. ... Transcripts of corporations’ recent earnings calls illuminate that they’re well aware of their power right now. Groundwork has been collecting highlights from corporate earnings calls on its website. “They’re saying a lot about cost increases and supply shocks, but they’re also saying it doesn’t matter,” said Becker. “We do have these higher costs that we’re paying, but we have so much pricing power, we’re so capable of passing all these prices on to consumers, that it doesn’t matter.” In November 2021, Kroger’s chief financial officer said that the company was “very comfortable with our ability to pass on the increases that we’ve seen at this point. And we would expect that to continue to be the case.” Tyson Foods’ CEO said in August 2022 that sales had increased 16 percent year-to-date largely thanks to “higher average sales price in chicken and prepared foods.”... https://www.vox.com/money/23641875/food-grocery-inflation-prices-billionaires

Tons of cities were still run by Republicans in the '80s unlike now. You make it sound like it is today when only military towns will vote in Republican mayors. And the "progessive" Democrats from back then don't compare to today's since everything was always being dragged back in the conservative direction back in those days. As far as the Rhino scheme goes that why we don't trust the private sector with anything.

I think UC could eventually reach OSU levels of enrollment though that might take over 20 years. And it's not going to come out of OSU's enrollment. Gen Z is far more pragmatic about their education so UC being located in an important city coupled with the best networking tool there is in co-op. Small town schools in towns with no jobs and tiny alumni networks scattered all over the country are so over. Still any type of big extrapolation like that is subject to this meme:

I'll tell you something about Keeping Up With the Joneses. Some of my friends and their friends and family are susceptible to it while others are not. Since we don't have very good statistics on a concept as nebulous as Keeping Up With the Joneses besides "What is popular sells well" we are stuck with anecdotes especially since a survey would about that sort of thing would be self-reported and people are in big-time denial when it comes to that. Friends note that I "don't care and it's clear that you even think about that kind of stuff" even though I have cool stuff. What is the difference here? My "cool stuff" doesn't cost nearly as much as boring expensive popular new stuff like full-size pickup trucks, McMansions and Fast Fashion clothing. It is stuff that only cool people think is cool and Joneses think is old, cheaper, weird, cranky, gaudy (my favorite) and/or boring. A buddy was talking about his sister-in-law who works triple shifts in order to afford a $700k house and my first reaction was "Man that would suck to work that hard over stuff. It owns you then." and he was like, "You are incapable of thinking like that." I said, "Other people don't think about your stuff that much." Now he's getting mildy frustrated, "You just don't get it. And that's a good thing." After a few months I was reflecting on the conversation wondering why I'm like that. Then it dawned on me that once we moved to the farm when I was 12 "The Joneses" was the trailer park across the road and we had them outgunned pretty good for the most part when it comes to Joneses things merely by having cars that weren't 15 years old and being able to make the bills every month. But far more people today are buried in work and home operational tasks to even think about reading personal finance books while on the other hand consumerism has been dropping steadily ever since grunge hit. This reminds me of a tussle than I got into on here years ago with someone who said that people spend a lot of money on a kitchen so that when they have people over they get lots of comments about how they have a nice kitchen. I said "I see your nice kitchen and instead raise you a regular kitchen with a poster of The Boz taped to the 20-year-old fridge! Now whose kitchen got more attention?!" Who knows who was right? With FHA loans if it's anything like many other programs the government makes it so hard to access assistance in so many cases you need a mentor working with you for a moderate amount of time. Poor people are already constantly frustrated by assistance programs that yet another thing to have to f--- with there isn't always bandwidth available for it. Republicans won't sign off on anything like that unless it's super complex in order to try and think up every way that 1% of people could game the system ahead of time. And they're still not going to catch all the ways anyway since so much American legislation is set-and-forget once it passes so it won't be updated for 39 years. But when they want to take the brakes off they come off super easy (an exception would be Obamacare which has been described as having "the root structure of mint"). Sorry to drag this out off topic, but all of today's discussion could easily be moved to the Housing Market and Trends thread.

All of my close friends from high school do what daddy did for a living, including myself now. They might go off and do something different for a while but it always comes back.

That's not today's lending environment though. Houses in the city are appreciating unlike in the postwar decades, especially the late ones ('70s-2000s) since sprawl-only worship is over and SFH development is now constrained. The well-intentioned move to incentivize minority property ownership quickly devolved into a bunch of white people overbuying in subdivisions and developers overbuilding them since that late-'90s/mid-2000s brew of neo-liberals, neo-conservatives and conservatives was running the show, eventually taking all the brakes off and and letting the lenders do their own thing without scrutiny. Today's lending environment supports all types of development -- if you ask if it does it well I'd say "no" but it does give things other than malls and subdivisions at least a chance.

Wind bringing pollution from industry in nearby counties. Columbus doesn't have that. Anyway, no matter how clean ICE cars are getting we do have an issue with particulates at least according to the Dispatch print article and of course lack of rail transit is blamed. This city can't get that by now rail transit is mandatory for a city this size. I would additionally blame the massive influx of semis to the area over the past 10 years and the ridiculous number of SUVs and full-size pickup trucks here. E-Check wouldn't help since they would almost all pass. E-check is a '90s solution to a 2020 problem since it does nothing about out of town semis, lack of rail transit and vehicles that are running perfectly fine within parameters yet still polluting since they have ICE engines. It's main purpose is to catch gross polluters which in rust states barely exist anymore. In non-rust states like California where you routinely see 40 year old cars on the road gross polluters can still be an issue.

Also most cars on the road today are very good about maintaining their emissions compliance throughout their lifespan as opposed to 15-20 years ago when there were still lots of cars with carburetors, user-adjustable ignition timing, short-lived early catalytic converters, few sensors, vacuum lines everywhere, constantly clogging PCV valves, sticky EGRs etc. out on the roads. A lot of today's cars will go haywire and leave you stranded or at least into nearly undrivable Limp Mode if the emissions are out of spec.

Well we certainly make fun of NIMBYs on here (haha) and are into all the other things you mention but as far as us being organized not so much.