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Which is the original Fairmount property, where they had "the plan for the two residential buildings that were incorporated" right..... I didnt remember the separate Ferchill thing..

Found it. http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,7716.msg79197.html#msg79197 Is this not the spot where the office building is going. Initially a separate development with 2 residential buildings, then added to the Wolstein plan?

Oh nevermind...... Im only 380. :|

Looks like they just had the Education Building up for final approval at Design Review, June 5th and the Planning Commission, June 6th along with the "Ribbon" study. http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2008/060608.html DRC 07-098:Cleveland State University, Euclid Avenue “Ribbon Study”, Conceptual Design Report, Final Review (PLPD/Ward 13) (Fr DRAC 9/6/07) [submitted 5/28/08] DRC 07-096:2605 Euclid Avenue, Cleveland State University, College of Education & Human Services Building, Final Approval (PLPD/Ward 13) (Fr DRAC 9/6/07) [submitted 5/28/08]

cd-cleveland nice set. I grew up not far from here (Penn/Ohio line). Did you make it to Presque Isle (the peninsula)? A must if you go back.

"The 27-year-old developer is pursuing the Liberty Textile Building, a rare vacant entertainment district property owned by James Kassouf." Does anybody know which building this is. Im guessing if it is owned by Kassouf that it is in sad shape.

Just saw this from the Monday PD about the Cliffs project (delay). Note the last paragraph.. Looks like he's cooking up something for Ohio City. http://www.cleveland.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/other/1213000304267410.xml&coll=2 Whatever happened to the upscale housing development planned along the Rocky River in Lakewood? By Molly Kavanaugh Monday, June 09, 2008 The project has been delayed. "Look out the window. There's virtually no new housing construction," laughs developer Rick Foran, who gets this question a lot...

Is Lucarelli's place still there, or is it long gone (Cafe Sausalito). Last time I was there was for a Cool Cleveland party a few years ago, when I came in for the first Ingenuity festival.

I'm not so sure their other properties look cookie-cutter, but I do understand your concern. Even though they all were somewhat unique, they did seem to be more "tropically-themed" and bright than what would fit the Breuer Tower well. brtshrcegr, I thought the exact same thing when I looked at there web site (almost would have seemed more fitting for the FEB), since I really think it needs to be one that takes advantage of that building to the fullest with a cool, funky, retro-chic type-a-thing. I guess there is still the potential of them doing something fitting since they do stress each being "unique". I'll hope for the best and remain excited about this (damnit).

Didnt understand your first post time, but it has nothing to do with it being in Cleveland, if it did I would say it was the best (since I do this with everything else Cleveland), but instead it had to do with MTS stating that it is one of the best in the chain, when clearly isnt (wish it was though) But hey, at least we have one.

Also have to agree to disagree. Yes, I have heard the same thing about the Ritz in Cleveland (I will try to find where I read that it was considered to be in the bottom tier of the Ritz Carlton's), and for that reason one of the last to get updated, which is supposed to be happening soon if not already. I often stay here when I come back to Cleveland, since I get a government rate, which makes it the same price as the Holiday Inn, plus I can bring my dog, but otherwise its not that special..... Even on Even on Trip Advisor, people that typically stay at Ritz' indicate Clevelands isnt great (and of course the people that dont typically stay at one are more favorable). Sorry MTS, but it is definately not considered one of the chains best, not even close.

Dont forget Tom Batiuk (Funky Winkerbean) lives in Medina County, and Brian Keller Vaughan (series Y: The Last Man), and Tony Strobl was from Cleve. (Donald Duck, contributions to Superman) etc..

Didnt know where to put this, so feel free to move if there is a better place... On MSN today, Cleveland made the list of 12 "unexpected "green" cities. Our green reputation is growing! http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=207&GT1=45002&page=2 Smart(ish) Cities: 12 unexpected urban areas that are doing good green stuff Cleveland, Ohio. Most people -- if they give Cleveland much thought at all -- probably see it as a Rust Belt city, a victim of white flight and the decaying industrial economy, and of environmental gaffes in the 1970s when Lake Erie was declared dead and the nearby Cuyahoga River was so choked with pollution that it caught fire. But this Midwest metropolis is also home to a surprisingly forward-looking sustainability subculture. The city hired a sustainability programs manager in 2005; last year, its transit system was named the best in the nation by the American Public Transportation Association. A focus on energy-efficient, affordable housing has seen new townhomes and cottages springing up in a formerly depopulated neighborhood, and community gardens sprouting along with them. Cleveland also ranks second only to Los Angeles in the number of projects per capita seeking certification under LEED-ND, an expanded version of the notorious green-building guidelines that applies to entire neighborhoods. Its biggest problem may be convincing people to move there -- or move back -- but even in that realm, there are signs of hope: one activist reports that Cleveland natives currently working on green programs in other cities have begun calling to find out how they can help back home. (Read more about Cleveland's green efforts at Grist.org.)

Clearly they are not interested in being in a high rise downtown. This was my disappointment, being Clevelands largest fortune 500, it would have been a great presence on Public Square, but from everything Ive heard they want a campus, whether in the flats or the suburbs.

Exactly. As good as this is, it irks me the same. With that huge lot on the other side of 668 it will make it like a stand alone building where that shouldnt be happening (they should be working to fill the holes not create more) Also, as if it would be a huge inconvenience to drive in from the Prospect side (that would/could connect to the same parking I believe).

Exactly. Thanks for posting that. I missed that part.

From Improvising Schema: http://improvisingschema.blogspot.com/2008/05/cleveland-gets-banal-high-rise.html Thursday, May 29, 2008 Cleveland Gets a Banal High Rise As the Cleveland real estate and business community rejoices over yesterday's news that the Jacobs Group and Hines are partnering to build a 21-story office tower in the heart of Cleveland, one thought kept crossing our minds - why are we being stuck with another impersonal glass box in Cleveland? The problem with the design proposal by uber-architecture firm Gensler is that it is frankly another banal building which does not acknowledge its context nor attempts to contribute to the linear progression of the architectural vernacular.

Thats what I usually equate it to. I always thought (and I have been attacked for saying) that Cleveland has very spread out energy and activity. Even the areas you think of as good places to go seem to have rather limited activity as well as commercial establishments. (such as edgewater, detroit shoreway, Ohio city etc...) more specifically on the west side there are funky stores and restaurants spread around from Clifton, to detroit to madison to detroit shoreway, but no real specific/cohesive area to spend an afternoon walking and shopping as you could in the South Side Pittsburgh. Some of the areas on the east side have a little more going on as was mentioned (coventry, little Italy) which seem to have more focused business/areas, where alot of the west side has storefronts and business districts that seem to go on for miles and tend to be underutilized. I think my argument before was something like (which MTS didnt like) when you try to make nearly every neighborhood an "arts district" you end up with a lot of "watered down" arts districts, spread around in too many places, with not enough of a concentration of anything to make them a destination, or even draw enough to make them succesful (yes there are specific exceptions, but even those are not consistent and pretty specific to special events). Cleveland is known for having off the beaten path treasures, maybe because there isnt much of a beaten path.... Either way, this is one of the things that makes the city unique, if not hard to navigate for someone unfamiliar or unadventurous. Im not saying the approach in Cleveland to have these initiatives in every neighborhood is bad, in fact in the long run, at least assuming Cleveland will turn a corner, it may be the better approach, but it just seems to result in a lot of watered down areas. I think Detroit Shoreway has the potential to move beyond this and think it will get there, but I also said this about Ohio City nearly 20 years ago and when I interned for OCNW (It is great, but not what it should be by now).

Unstable soil, water issues could pose problems for downtown medical mart site by Sarah Hollander Friday May 30, 2008, 8:48 PM Construction crews could run into a costly water problem if too much digging takes place on downtown's grassy malls, one of two favored sites for a new convention center and medical mart, preliminary soil tests show. Cuyahoga County commissioners are trying to find the best location for the complex and are beginning to worry whether either site will fit within a $400 million budget. Recent drillings on the malls indicate at least some unstable soil, which would add to the cost of foundation work... more at: http://www.cleveland.com/medicalmart/

True. Although it is between the two spots that were in contention. Now we may instead see a convention hotel near e.55th. :lol:

The only thing I would say is that even though there isnt a large enough tenent justifying anything taller, Im surprised he didnt plan for a mixed use building as was talked about further up, with a convention hotel. The hotel itself could have added 20 stories. I like the building, I just think it needs to be a bit taller for that spot.

Ha ha, funny Spinal Tap, i mean CornerCurve.

Hts44121 isnt Baker Hostetler still in the National City Building?

ajknee, the good thing about being in Cleveland during the week is that the fabulous building lobbys will be open to walk through (on the weekends many are closed). Im sure KJP and Mayday will fill you in but, with Clevelands legacy came some amazing old bank lobbies (such as Huntington and National City) and Mall buildings (City Hall, County Court House, Metzenbaum Fed. C.H., Library), and of course the Terminal Tower and the hidden-away Van Swingeran Arcade as well as the other arcades), Also, if you can get into the Theatres in Playhouse square (even just a peak at the lobbies that sometimes the attendants will let you look at). Oh, and the West Side Market on Wednesday is a must! I would also suggest the Shaker/Cleve. Hts. tour, its impressive how beautiful it is over there, and you can check out Shaker Square and Conentry area's as well as hopefully University Circle and Little Italy (If in Little Italy, Lake View Cemetary is a must (tells Clevelands story)) Between the cemetary and the East side Mansions it gives you some perspective of the history and legacy of Cleveland.

Oh you mean like Pickwick and Folic?? And the owner is FROM Cleveland, but.....