willyboy

With McCain, Ive actually come to like the guy, because of some encounters I have had with him. Plus I like that he doesnt really pander to certain groups like we have seen. Also, he did Cleveland a huge favor about 2 years ago, based on some things that he met with me to discuss. So I think he does have integrity, and actually thought I would "consider" him, but have found that I just cant... (plus he is just a bit wack-o) I also over the last few years realized that Im not as liberal as I once thought I was.

I guess I dont understand the necessity, or reasoning behind paying every 30 miles as opposed to the current system where you pay at the end or when you leave the turnpike..?

McD's also keep their coffee stirrers, sugar, and everything else behind the counter Mayday I noticed last week this was the case in D.C. (dont ever go in there, but....) So maybe it is company wide. I guess they could say it is to conserve.... environment..... or they've just gotten cheap. Also, dont some people swear by McDonalds coffee?? (and I dont mean in your case, where your probably doing plenty of it...)

LincolnKennedy that is the logical thing to do, and Im currently sifting through Obama stuff trying to see where he stands on things comparable to Hillary (but again, it does require some digging since there isnt alot of history there) . Again my argument wasnt about "my opinion not jibing with others" it was that they "have an opinion" which I finally started to see on the last page, and was rather happy with. I want to be able to support Obama as well if he recieves the nomination, but need to feel that I have reasons for supporting him, not just the ones I had been previously seeing. Also, thats what I was trying to do was inquire further..

Jeffrey Strean and Marty Walters

Sorry, demo!

It passed 5 to 2!!! more later.

Woops, I was confusing Zaremba with the Marous project.

This isnt the article I saw but mentions some places in China Town that have it. http://www.greatabout.net/specific.html?rowid=3

I saw a write up (I think sometime last year) about a place in China Town that has it, but I cant remember the name. I think it was a rather young guy that had opened it though.

Thats better... Thanks, you guys..

You keep harping on this as though you're owed an explanation. Perhaps I do feel that way.. Since Ive come to trust this board to the extent that I think the people on here share the same passions as me, I guess I did expect to see more dialogue to help me understand this Obama phenomenon that I have been trying to understand. Given I can come on here and get every detail to why a restaurant is good or not, but haven't found the same of something that could have such a big impact on things that people on here are so passionate about. Clearly I need to get over this, and realize I'm not going to find a magical answer, and come to my own conclusions about this. I haven't questioned Obama's intelligence, although I think it is more that he is a good speaker and that people are so hungry for change given the last 7 years, but I haven't felt that people have fairly looked at the candidates or the issues, or who may be more capable of carrying out actual needed change.

But the top floor floor plans still include the new top level, which is the living area, with the current top level being bedrooms (first floor bedrooms, second floor living area). Seems they would have already sold some based on this layout. The last open house I went to there (a couple months ago), the sales guy still said it was happening.

Yeah but its 4 to 1 on here? And most of us on here are white, but I guess not older women. Which as Ive stated I was shocked about in the elections thread (the overwhelming unquestionable support for Obama with little reason given behind it) as well as surprised that I had not seen dialogue on here comparing things like urban policy or answers to Frank Jacksons letter.... I did look here for convincing of why I should support Obama, but all I found was Hillary bashing and little substance (which I guess does somewhat compare with the campaign as well as the mainstream public (which I didn't think were the people on here)

This wasnt the corner I expected Zaremba to be proposing something for.....

Oh yes. It seems I get all those mixed up, with Ruehl (also Abercrombie) having quite the faux brownstone storefront and "exlusive club" atmosphere (right down to the salespeople).

I cant remember, but is Hollister another Limited brand. The new Abercrombie?

I think the "in the know" mcadrenaline has beat you to this news... previous page.. :wink:

So freakin' funny. Watch this one first... http://youtube.com/watch?v=WLG3S5WzHig And then this... http://youtube.com/watch?v=sIQrBouWRiE

Do you have family in Conneaut then? What school did you go to there?

I think your both right, but mrnyc has a good point about finding something you wont find alsewhere in the region (just remember the typical suburban mentality) I know this is different but I do think that would have been the big factor in differentiating Tower City these last few years (something you couldnt find anywhere else). Cause otherwise, I think people would have still thought it easier and safer to go to Beachwood or other malls.

I agree...

And I know for a fact that the vast majority of the newer jobs are nowhere near comparable to the old jobs that are no longer there.... Like the Docks, Rail Roads, True Tempers, GE's etc... I know this, since most of my family is still there, and I know the people that are working in some of these "new" jobs. Lets just say that I send my family money for Christmas...

No that was Ashtabula Harbor. Downtown you cant miss....... Oh wait, yes you can.

It is still interesting and pleasant on the lake, both in Ashtabula and Conneaut. There are still many interesting houses and buildings from the good old days. Conneaut Harbor is where the Hullet Ore unloaders were first used. There is an amazing "look out" spot to see the harbor there and actually a pretty nice beach. Although many of the charming neighborhoods have become somewhat rundown, most of the properies and houses along the lake are still pretty nice.